Hi,
Thanks for bringing this up. The Executive Council (of which I am a member) is
aware of this issue and is actually discussing it internally, and we will reach
out to the community for input as well. By the way, relational databases are no
longer part of the ‘branded’ Software Carpentry workshops, while the shell,
version control and a programming language are.
Best,
Lex Nederbragt.
> On 8 Aug 2018, at 02:36, Ben Bolker via discuss
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> This is an understandable, and difficult, tension.
>
> I thought relational DBs were part of Data Carpentry more than SC? It
> was my understanding that VC/shell/programming language were *required*
> components of a SC workshop, although obviously people will bend the
> rules ...
>
>
> On 2018-08-07 07:23 PM, Jason Moore via discuss wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For a number of years, software carpentry would teach 4 things at every
>> workshop: version control, shell, relational databases, and a
>> programming language intro. There were some options, like git vs
>> mercurial or r vs matlab vs python, but if you went to a workshop you'd
>> get these 4 skills.
>>
>> This was quite convenient because I knew if I sent my new students to
>> the latest nearby workshop they'd come back with those basic building
>> blocks in place and could start working with my group on projects.
>>
>> Now, I see announcements of new workshops nearby and get excited to let
>> my new students know about them, but once I look closer the lessons are
>> all over the place. In fact, I've seen few recently that hit the SWC 4
>> skills and I really really want my students to get those under their
>> belt as a foundation. I've resorted to sending them to videos of those
>> lessons instead.
>>
>> The diversity in lessons is great in one aspect, but we never really
>> know what we are going to get. The consistency of SWC lessons had many
>> advantages and I didn't care much whether the students learned git or
>> mercurial or any of the difference languages, only that they got those 4
>> skills.
>>
>> Anyone else have this thought? And if so, are there any ideas for
>> improvement?
>>
>> Jason
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