For me Hao Ye,
I learned the command line first. There was no other way to use svn. So moving 
to graphical interface was easier I think. I already had a notion of what was 
happening.

Deb

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On Oct 17, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Hao Ye 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I agree that the graphical interface abstraction of GitHub Desktop can be a 
barrier for developing an in-depth understanding of Git.

However, navigating the command line interface is a much larger barrier for 
learning and usage for, I'd say at least 75% of Carpentry workshop attendees. 
Just think how many of them may have only just gotten their first crash course 
in bash earlier that day or the day before!

GitHub Desktop is great for enabling learners to focus on how to collaborate 
using git, vs. dealing with the command line syntax.

Best,
--
Hao Ye
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 2:08 PM Rohit Goswami 
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I'm not sure if this is the right place but I personally find github desktop to 
be even more confusing than the terminal. I feel that GUI abstracts away the 
way git works with files and I would it to be non intuitive. I wasn't pleased 
with the file listing and changes views either. However, I'm not sure how it 
looks to novices.

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:27pm, Scott Gruber 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Katrin, Elizabeth, et al.

I’m planning a couple of web design workshop for high school students and 
Cameroon researchers and want to introduce the basics of Git to both 
communities.  The info (and public git repositories) about Github Desktop is so 
helpful.

Thank you for your help.

Scott




On Oct 17, 2019, at 7:18 AM, E.W. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Katrin,

I use GitHub desktop all the time for introductions to git and found that you 
can really speed through things and get people really comfortable even in just 
an hour.  I ran a git/github lesson for one of my classes that ran for about 3 
hours. It started with my introduction to github desktop 
(https://github.com/elliewix/github-training-brain-dumps/blob/master/github_directions.md<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/elliewix/github-training-brain-dumps/blob/master/github_directions.md__;!5Xm4_O-4tfk!hpky_XRUe5SKv0Czp8UQugWiILBTrPgq2mN3EbzO8gldw4IxiCUNUaRx_51D1A$>)
 adapted to just use markdown files, and then patched into the SWC git lesson.  
Getting introduced to the vocabulary first within a gui and then seeing how the 
command line actions related to actions on the website and the GUI seemed to 
really help reinforce the concepts.  Once I clean up all the materials for that 
class I'll be posting things up on github.

I haven't seen the built in tutorial, but will check that out!

Elizabeth

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 3:33 AM Leinweber, Katrin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi!


> I find that the Git and Github sections of a workshop generate a lot of 
> technical questions and errors, notably more than the other sections.

So true!

> […] If git and github could be taught in 5 minutes, I'm guessing it would be 
> included in DC material...

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 added a built-in tutorial recently. Has anyone used this in a workshop?

I'd be happy to receive some comments on that, because I'm planning to use it 
in a few weeks.


Thanks and greetings!
Katrin

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