Uwe

I 100% percent agree with your comments with regards to the fact that 
carpentries strength is providing an environment where participants get a 
personalize instruction experience!

I am not sure if I mentioned this in my presentation, but I do not record any 
of my workshop sessions for a number of reason.  Firstly, I want the 
participants to be engaged as much as possible, knowing that the sessions are 
not being recorded ensures they can speak up and ask questions, without the 
fear of being seen online.  Secondly, people learn much more from doing and 
having someone there helping them to “debug” their issues immediately, ensures 
no-one gets left behind in their learning journey.  Thirdly, I find that if 
people knows the sessions are being recorded, they tend to think it is okay to 
get distracted, “as they can catch up later”, which means participants are not 
as engaged, thus reducing the overall learning experience.

Where my opinion differ to your comments, is that I truly believe you can 
provide a “personalized instruction experience” in a virtual environment.  In 
my sessions, I ensure engagement with everyone is a priority and because we 
“collaboratively debug issues”, everyone feels like they are being supported 
throughout the learning process.  The difficulties with this though is that 
participant numbers are lower in these virtual sessions to achieve this high 
level of engagement and interactivity.  At the moment, I have classes of up to 
12 participants and I feel with these numbers, I am able to give everyone there 
individual experiences.  If we decided to try larger groups, I am not sure how 
that will go (but it is something I am considering to see how it might go).

Now don’t get me wrong, face-to-face sessions are an extremely effective 
teaching method and I don’t believe we should do away with this entirely – but 
my argument is with the notation that virtual training is a poor substitute to 
face-to-face training.  I have had lecturers highlight to me that some of the 
virtual teaching methods, in particular “collaboratively debugging”, is such a 
useful concept that they are now thinking about hey they could incorporate the 
concept into their face-to-face teachings.

As always, I am happy to discuss this further with those who might be 
interested.

Cheers,
Jason.

From: Hilgert, Uwe K K - (hilgert) <[email protected]>
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Subject: [discuss] Re: Is COVID-19 virus demanding alternative software 
carpentry workshop delivery options?

Dear Jason et al.

In my opinion, the most significant strength of Software Carpentry workshops is 
that they are in-person, presented by trained and caring instructors and 
assisted by an army of passionate helpers that deliver an almost personalized 
instruction experience. In the past I have therefore steadfastly deflected 
requests to broadcast the workshops that I organized here at the University of 
Arizona, referring potential remote participants to the excellent training 
materials that are available online in the subject matters of command line, 
version control and programming.

That said, could we start thinking about ways to emulate the strength I lined 
out above in virtual workshops? Maybe recordings of the basic content presented 
by "master instructors" (who ever these might be), that are then delivered by 
passionate mentors in a personalized manner in small (up to 5 participants), 
interactive groups using Zoom or other software?

Again, given the existence of superior tutorials to learn computational skills, 
I do not believe that we should just jump on the band wagon and do the same 
thing all over again. Then, compiling and disseminating an annotaded Google doc 
with URLs for tutorials, would seem more time efficient.

Thank you.

Uwe

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G’day Software Carpentry colleagues



With the COVID-19 virus causing great concern, I am aware of a number of 
precautionary measures being applied globally to help reduce the spread of this 
virus.  Some of these measures include: events cancellation, travel bands, 
increase in workforce working from home or being placed in self-isolation, it 
is my personal opinion that this will have a flow on affect to software 
carpentry workshops.  I am not aware of any software carpentry workshops that 
have been cancelled because of this virus yet, but I believe that it is a 
matter of when, not if, that some workshops will be cancelled.



With a desire to increase social distance of the general population, the 
interest in the use of virtual environments for training, presentations and 
general meetings it rising rapidly.  Because I believe strongly in what 
software carpentry is trying to achieve and I have personally seen my local 
participants benefitting from software carpentry workshops, I want to highlight 
my experiences from running virtual software carpentry workshops in Australia!  
I believe that virtual workshops may provide a viable alternative to the 
carpentries standard “face-to-face” workshops.   Two weeks ago, on behalf of 
ARDC, CQUniversity and QCIF, I provided a presentation on “Virtual Software 
Carpentry Workshops - key learnings to make it a success” (which can now be 
viewed on YouTube 
https://youtu.be/MzsJyOkxqv8--<https://youtu.be/MzsJyOkxqv8-->) that I am 
hoping might be of interest to some of you within the Software Carpentry 
community.



Please don’t take this email the wrong way and I am not looking to create 
additional fears or concerns – I am just hoping that some of my experiences 
from running virtual software carpentry workshops might be of value to some of 
you, particularly those who may be considering alternative workshop delivery 
options.



If you have any questions, you are welcomed to email me, or send me a message 
on the carpentry slack channel.



Many thanks for your time,

Jason.





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