I’d be interested in working on some thing if it doesn’t already exist [email protected]
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:31 AM Purwanto, Wirawan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Peter: I was thinking the same. A number of things on HPC Carpentry are > similar to the cloud but the technologies could be very different. In my > limited understanding of working in a cloud-native fashion: > > * On the simplest level, it will be a single VM that is made available to > a researcher. In this fashion, it is more like intro to Linux. > * On the far end, there could be a swarm of VMs or containers that have to > be orchestrated. And instead of SLURM, Kubernetes may be the tool to > interact to submit & manage tasks. > * File storage: Instead of using local filesystem like Lustre and NFS, > data are stored in S3 buckets, or something similar. > * Software: In many cloud-native settings, this seems to be replaced with > many APIs. So gone are "software install" etc. But learn how to talk to > these cloud services by using the correct API calls. > > I am not knowledgeable about cloud, if any, so I am not sure what other > technologies are prevailing today. Things are moving very fast and what we > are developing now could become obsolete in a year. Speaking of cloud, > Amazon and others do have cloud offering that looks like HPC. So maybe our > lessons are not irrelevant after all, unless you have to work with a > cloud-native software stack. > > It would greatly help if a number of people with cloud experience can jot > down a list of topics that we have to cover in a Carpentry-style lesson > like this: > > https://github.com/hpc-carpentry/hpc-intro/blob/gh-pages/lesson-outline.md > > That is the online for the "hpc-intro" lesson. > > Wirawan > > On 6/3/20, 2:33 AM, "Peter Steinbach" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Dena, > > first off: I am sad to hear your story. It would be helpful to hear > what topics need to be taught for such a certification. I've > worked with AWS in the past and consider it to be complicated beast. > Can't say anything more positive for GCE. Thus, I > understand the need for teaching and training. > > I am asking as I have a gut feeling that potentially some of these > topics might overlap with what we teach in HPCCarpentry > material [1] & [2]. So please put some evidence to these feelings as I > am mostly a self-taught cloud user. > > Best, > Peter > > [1]: > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fhpc-carpentry&data=02%7C01%7Cwpurwant%40odu.edu%7Cfe4b53e503884a87073b08d807881297%7C48bf86e811a24b8a8cb368d8be2227f3%7C0%7C0%7C637267628311333033&sdata=8B2U7MDCSBYvWlFm0nVaF73pn2kh0C2siAvFlejuQdk%3D&reserved=0 > [2]: > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpsteinb.github.io%2Fhpc-in-a-day%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cwpurwant%40odu.edu%7Cfe4b53e503884a87073b08d807881297%7C48bf86e811a24b8a8cb368d8be2227f3%7C0%7C0%7C637267628311333033&sdata=vZuq905wkJIG3SXMQP0lmVbz22cukHiVB2QnpilOup8%3D&reserved=0 > > On 6/2/20 9:05 PM, Strong, Dena L wrote: > > Our university has a lot of staff and researchers interested in > learning more about AWS topics, but we’ve just today been asked to reduce > expenditures for almost everything considered optional. > > > > We currently have 20 purchased AWS training seats available to a > staff of 350 professionals in our central IT organization, and our entire > application development group has been told to nominate 6 people out of > dozens who are interested. > > > > Has anyone put together a Carpentries-style set of open-source > online training documents for people who are interested in preparation for > the AWS and Azure certifications? > > > > Because we have a couple of already-certified AWS experts on our > team, but they’re so busy they don’t have time to develop coursework > themselves in addition to what they’re already working on, and they said > “if you can find us open-source teaching resources, we can probably train > more of the crew.” We’re thinner on the ground on Azure experts, but would > love open-source training for that as well. > > > > Sent from Mail< > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7Cwpurwant%40odu.edu%7Cfe4b53e503884a87073b08d807881297%7C48bf86e811a24b8a8cb368d8be2227f3%7C0%7C0%7C637267628311333033&sdata=4dLYBJK5bwI%2F6DGrLpBPT%2BGy2hGX%2BUkSNbCEnQMkD2g%3D&reserved=0> > for Windows 10 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The Carpentries: discuss > > Permalink: > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcarpentries.topicbox.com%2Fgroups%2Fdiscuss%2FT392fd884e2c53547-Ma8dc0165e9ac3e559cab6a37&data=02%7C01%7Cwpurwant%40odu.edu%7Cfe4b53e503884a87073b08d807881297%7C48bf86e811a24b8a8cb368d8be2227f3%7C0%7C0%7C637267628311333033&sdata=%2BcfUKYTjdd1kcy8XY8RNcqP4TgUs5C5rUHrEnxzN32Y%3D&reserved=0 > > Delivery options: > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcarpentries.topicbox.com%2Fgroups%2Fdiscuss%2Fsubscription&data=02%7C01%7Cwpurwant%40odu.edu%7Cfe4b53e503884a87073b08d807881297%7C48bf86e811a24b8a8cb368d8be2227f3%7C0%7C0%7C637267628311333033&sdata=RMGHpcotW2EgI8JDfH5P%2Fe8v19rjJ%2FU9hDY6%2FfugCZ0%3D&reserved=0 > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The Carpentries: discuss > Permalink: > https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T392fd884e2c53547-M6a85e4c56cd07386aae1bd7d > Delivery options: > https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription > ------------------------------------------ The Carpentries: discuss Permalink: https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T392fd884e2c53547-M121faf63b92a3fc2df979829 Delivery options: https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription
