On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 10:41:31AM -0600, Jason King via illumos-developer wrote: > Given Illumos is not a distro, it's customers aren't end users but > developers. The distros have end users. So anything that helps > developers is valuable. > > There are a number of legacy things (byzantine make structure/build system, > the aforementioned libc/libbc confusion, etc.) that impose a needless > barrier for people looking to improve Illumos. I do think people that have > been working on the code base for 10+ years and have already learned the > myriad of idiosyncrasies in it tend to forget how imposing and difficult it > can be to get a handle on it. Fixing and improving that stuff (including > housekeeping from time to time) can only help. It isn't sexy, it doesn't > get you the headlines, but having a good foundation makes it a lot easier > to do those sexy, headline grabbing things.
Well said. I'd just add that Illumos is an open source project. This means that there's no management to dictate what people work on, rather they volunteer their time. As a result, I think that we should be happy that someone finds paying down technical debt satisfying enough to work on it and we should *not* drive them away because "janitorial work isn't sexy" or "doesn't provide value". (Those are opinions anyway, not technical reasons to do/not do something.) Jeff. > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Richard Elling via illumos-developer < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Most of this work is designed to make life better for developers who > > build products on top of illumos, as opposed to adding customer visible > > features. > > > > My point exactly. No customer visible features == no value. > > -- richard > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > illumos-developer > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182179/=now > > RSS Feed: > > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182179/21175113-a9d2c6f0 > > Modify Your Subscription: > > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > illumos-developer > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182179/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182179/21178391-8a85587e > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- The box said "Windows XP or better required". So I installed Linux. ------------------------------------------- illumos-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175430-2e6923be Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21175430&id_secret=21175430-6a77cda4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
