Hi Well spoken everyone - one is missing that doesn't declare himself and should please said some thing on this : Garret ....
1.) Garret in front of the curtain please 2.) Would it be frank to ask - could we donate for OpenIndiana? and if so where - and what do donate? 3.) Question: Is there a real problem with the name - or only this IPS / SRV4 Package hating generation conflict? 4.) UserLand discussions are slightly boring (IMHO) - cause the OpenSolaris / OpenIndiana Userland I'm personally used too not really interested in debian UserLand or anything else... 5.) What really matters: ZFS / DTrace / KVM / Zones / Crossbow - could we all work together to make a progress their - and maybe starting to innovate with an "open board" 6.) Every Distro has it's beautiful side - could we hammer out (for people not knowing one of this either) which one is best for what case? (making a list together where each is aimed to be installed / used) 7.) Let the community vote for the userland and the winner should help the others to integrate .... (if it is illumnos / debian userland - please help OI to integrate) 8.) thanks to everyone who does a great job - on the core / the distribution / the integration of new things (nexenta - illumnos / alasdair - openindiana / joyent team - kvm / dtrace and tons of updates and fixes) Michael 2011/11/28 Alexander <[email protected]> > Well said. Just let's work together, I do not understand why the name of > the distribution can be an obstacle. I do not see any threat to OI, > moreover, I think working together on the integration of new packages and > the use of one illumos-userland will helps everyone. Let's just work, as > Bryan said. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 28, 2011, at 1:43 AM, Bryan Cantrill <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Michael Widmann < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Any comments on this joyents and nextentas? >> > > First, Joyent, Delphix, Nexenta and every other member of the illumos > community contributes to illumos -- to the core operating system -- which > in turn benefits everyone (OpenIndiana included). So we have in fact > helped OpenIndiana (most significantly with our KVM port to illumos, which > OpenIndiana included in its oi_151a release) -- and we will continue to do > so. > > That said, I think it's important that we as a community recognize that > what binds us is core OS technologies (ZFS, Zones, Crossbow, DTrace, KVM, > etc.), and not how those technologies are packaged and distributed. A > central aspect of the failing of OpenSolaris (in my opinion) was that we > collectively (and Sun in particular) insisted on there being only One True > Path for the entire system. At its best, this ethos manifested itself as > endless discussions on governance and voting and constitutions -- and at > its worse led to arguments, discord, politicking and fracture. > > But with illumos, we have a rebirth: we have not only fresh blood in > terms of technologists, but also (I would like to think) more tolerance > around those elements that are ancillary to those core technologies. As > such, several distributions have flowered that would have not been possible > in the shadow of OpenSolaris -- and I expect more to come. This is > _healthy_ as it means that more people (not fewer) will be exposed to our > core values as new distributions arise to fill new niches. As a community > moving forward, we need to stay focussed on the values that bind us -- and > that means leading with the technology, not pre-announcements or rhetoric > or endless discussion. To that end, I would point to the illumos hackathon > as a shining example of what we can and should be doing: similarly minded > people coming together to advance the state of the art in operating systems! > > With that, I would like to ask that we cease the friendly fire and get > back to work. Speaking personally, I am going to be spending the afternoon > finishing up the ::scalehrtime dcmd that we found so invaluable on a nasty > KVM problem this past week (patch to come on that one), and adding some > code to the panic path that would make a similar problem slightly easier to > debug -- work that I believe to be examples (if extraordinarily small ones) > of the values that bind our community... > > - Bryan > > *illumos-discuss* | > Archives<https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21572416-8e4bcc42> | > Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > > *illumos-discuss* | > Archives<https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175862-1c3587f1> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- bayoda.com - Professional Online Backup Solutions for Small and Medium Sized Companies ------------------------------------------- illumos-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175430-2e6923be Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21175430&id_secret=21175430-6a77cda4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
