On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Gordon Ross wrote:
> So to clarify, you're not proposing removing any character set
> support, but propose to remove locale information for some character
> sets. (i.e. collation info, upper/lower, etc) correct?
>
> Note that for the "OEM code pages" in SMB (8-bit char sets), you need
> the ability to convert upper/lower, lower/upper in any of those. (and
> case-insensitive match) I don't believe collation is required.
What i would be removing would include all the LC_xxx information. This means
toupper/tolower won't work, but for those code pages really you should have
your own code. There is no point in carrying that information via locales.
- Garrett
>
> Gordon
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Garrett D'Amore
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Iconv and protocol support is orthogonal to support for using the locale for
>> interactive logins. There is indeed value in removing those we don't need
>> as it takes real work to continue to support them under newer versions of
>> cldr.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gordon Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A number of places in protocol code need support for various 8-bit
>>> character sets.
>>> For example, you can configure NFS to convert to/from some of these and
>>> utf-8
>>> when serving NFS v2, v3. (NFSv4 does utf-8)
>>>
>>> It would take me a little time to get a complete list, but I remember
>>> seeing things
>>> like EUC-* SJIS-* and various ISO-8859-* sets in use in SMB for some "OEM"
>>> strings (legacy stuff).
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about the need for the locale data for any of those.
>>> Maybe that could go away, but is there much benefit in that?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/1/26 Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]>:
>>>>> I use koi8-r & windows-1251 in the PostgreSQL and nginx. In the new
>>>>> projects I use utf-8 only, but I have some old code which I can't rewrite
>>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> Do you just need support for the encodings (via iconv or whatever) or do
>>>> you need the actual locales to be present on the system?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking UTF-8 ought to be sufficient, but I confess I'm not sure I
>>>> understand why the encoding would matter at all for the login locale --
>>>> except perhaps you might be interfacing with systems via e.g. telnet or
>>>> ssh, which don't support UTF-8 but have a legacy locale. (Are such
>>>> concerns still relevant?)
>>>>
>>>> - Garrett
>>>>
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