Hi Milan/Garrett,

Garrett, regarding "I think its *insane* that you guys are worried about continued resync's against the upstream Oracle data" - we're not.. what gave you that impression?

We're actively moving components out of JDS into oi-build, but until that's done (it's *huge* and complex, and we're just 2 or 3 people at this point) we have to rebuild JDS, because it depends on libraries we're updating. If we update a library in oi-build that JDS depends on, we have to rebuild the component in JDS.

I can't speak for Milan or everyone on the OI team, but I personally completely agree with illumos' decision to chuck sgml2roff out of the gate, there are plenty of other things that imho should be evicted too (e.g. sendmail).

I think it was just a surprise to find it missing, and Milan is annoyed at the extra work it is creating for him, someone with limited time who is volunteering it to help us with JDS, something many others cannot stomach.

We can do a build recipe for sgml2roff in oi-build - Milan, if you want I can do this for you. Just let me know and I'll prioritise this in my spare time this week.

I'm not sure we have the resources to rewrite pages in a different format at the moment but if we move anything across to oi-build that depends on sgml2roff we can look at it.

This is a storm in a teacup, and there's no need for people to argue about it. As far as I'm concerned, illumos wants to diet, most people agree this is a good thing because it's obese. Things are going to get chucked out we need, and we just have to accept the extra work that creates for OI.

Cheers,

Alasdair


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