Agreed - always is a strong word. On Nov 18, 2007 10:00 PM, Michael Tuminello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep. I guess so. I should have read the earlier messages. Making > alpha versions of dishwashers for the sake of UI design seems less > than cost-effective. I will still say, however, if you say "always" > anything, you're asking for people to disagree with you (and they will > probably be right.). > > MT > > On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:25 PM, Mike Scarpiello wrote: > > > You guys are taking it much too literally. > > > > 1) Replace 'Paper' with 'White Board' and that may help > > > > 2) This guy designs appliances for seniors for Whirlpool. What he is > > saying is you don't walk into the factory and start making dishwashers > > on day 1. You flesh out low-fi ideas first. His example was > > integrating the counter top into all the appliances. which was easily > > sketched out on paper first to get feedback from the Whirlpool execs. > > > > On Nov 18, 2007 6:46 PM, Michael Tuminello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I agree that this is silly, although it may be for different reasons. > >> > >> Personally, I have found that people don't always make the leap from > >> paper sketches to the real experience of using the UI. Not to say > >> that you should always present a final design, but sometimes I think > >> it is better to present a design that at least looks halfway real. > >> > >> How many of us have ever used a system that looks like a paper > >> sketch? > >> > >> As usual (always? ;-) ) , I don't think an "always" answer does the > >> situation justice.... > >> > >> MT > >> > >> > >> On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:45 PM, tripodell wrote: > >> > >>> "Always paper first. Always. Paper before Pixel." > >>> > >>> No offense, but that's just silly. Some people need paper to get > >>> started - I find it to be a real hinderance - I like the ability to > >>> freeform a bunch of concepts in omnigraffle and look at where there > >>> are intersecting ideas. > >>> > >>> Different strokes and all that. Not everyone processes their ideas > >>> the same way (which is obvious from the length of the thread). > >>> > >>> Actually my favorite "tool" is working directly with another > >>> designer at a white board and throwing ideas back and forth. 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