On Dec 19, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:

> On Dec 18, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Jared M. Spool wrote:
>
>> What it sounds like you're trying to say is that somehow designers
>> are more enlightened about good design than usability practitioners.
>> I think this is a fallacious argument (and, to some, probably
>> insulting).
>
> Generally speaking good designers are more enlightened about good
> design. If a usability wants to learn more about what it takes to
> craft good design, then that person will become enlightened. However,
> given equal education in theory and academics, unless a person
> *crafts and makes* a product with their own two hands, there's no way
> they will ever know as much as the person who does. Simple as that.

Yes, yes.

Many people who conduct usability practice these days are not  
specialists, but generalists on the design team with other  
responsibilities, including design. Because design teams have been  
shrinking over the last ten years, you rarely find teams consisting  
of specialists. (Wrote about this here: http://tinyurl.com/2oba65)

The result is, as already has been mentioned in this thread, that  
many usability practitioners also regularly "craft and make" elements  
of the designs their teams produce.

I don't understand why there's a need to drive this dividing line  
between design professionals and usability professionals. I  
understand that many people don't like Jakob's approach to expressing  
his notion of right and wrong, but he doesn't represent the state-of- 
the-art in usability practice any more than Steve Jobs represents the  
way things are done across all of design.

Why is it important that designers distance themselves from the  
evaluation side? Where is this coming from?

Jared

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