On Feb 20, 2008, at 12:05 PM, dave malouf wrote: > 2) Like what David Shaw said. You've gotta be nutz, coocoo, and just > insane to leave anyplace including NYC and move to SF unless you were > guaranteed something between $150k-$200k, and HUGE relocation package > upwards of $20-$30k. Having done relocates to both coasts I'm pretty > familiar with what it takes at this point.
While I understand the problem with the cost of living here, I think this is a bit extreme and may be overstating the issue a little bit. Not to take away from the very real issue of what the cost of living here is and how it puts a strain on people, but it certainly doesn't require earning $150K to $200K a year. On Feb 20, 2008, at 12:05 PM, dave malouf wrote: > 3) The value of SV as a nexus is being lost due to well what SV > does ... create technological solutions that mitigate the need for > centralized workforces. 8-) Not sure I agree with this. I'm still shocked and amazed the amount of people or companies I get requests from to work on some pretty interesting projects. And in fact, Involution has gotten a good number of those projects specifically because our studio location is 3 miles from Apple in Cupertino, 5 miles from Google in Mountain View, 2 miles from Yahoo! here in Sunnyvale, 10 miles from Adobe in San Jose, right around the corner from Intel in Santa Clara, and a short drive away from nearly every single internet, web or new technology startup... you get the picture. If we weren't here, we wouldn't be getting any of these projects. While I know there's great work being done elsewhere, I still can't imagine getting all the latest projects , or at least the latest kind of projects we work on, without being here in Silicon Valley. On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:40 AM, W Evans wrote: > And I would love to blame the quality of the job posting sites. > There search engines are terrible. Just now, I search in > Washington DC.... > > Information Architect (86 results - only 3 were for IA) > Interaction Designer (41 results, only 1 for IxD) > Interface Designer (10 results, only one for ID) > > Some of the things that come back in results are amazing. Search > for IA and get senior java architect as a high ranked result? This gets back to semantics which no one on this board likes to discuss. The reason job titles, job descriptions and skills/craft descriptions are so important is precisely because people in HR simply cannot be expected to know every single in and out of what a field like ours does. I remember how much work I had to do with the many different HR people I've worked with, and they have a ton on their plates as it is. The fact our field doesn't hunker down and help them with the problem of normalizing job titles, job descriptions and skills/craft requirements is our fault, not theirs. ----- Now that we have some thoughts on it, is there a solution, either for Silicon Valley or in general to how to better connect designers out in the world with the various jobs that are cropping up everywhere? And part of that solution I think needs to fin a way to map designers to job that are within their skill sets, but also provide growth paths. I find most Job sites, free boards or paid, to be sorely lacking. And yes, for those of you that have emailed me privately, please feel free to send me resumes/links to portfolios if you are interested in Involution or working/moving to in Silicon Valley to design software, web or other technology type products. You know my deal... I need designers who want to own both the aesthetic and interaction design on their projects, and who are willing to jump whole hog into prototyping at a code level with their own two hands whenever necessary, although we have awesome developers here to help in that respect. We currently have 2 to 3 openings for designers that need to be filled, and I've got way too many companies asking me to help them even more. It's a good problem to have I guess, but one I wish was not recurring year over year. I seem to have to deal with this every two to three years and it frustrates me. I'm interested as both a business owner and a designer how to better handle this sort of problem in the future since it seems to be systemic at some level. -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
