I'd argue that the Bay area is affordable and one can buy a home (given the 
current real estate market here), though your comfort level will not be as good 
as other areas in the country and you're going to make sacrifices about areas 
where you'd like to live versus areas where you can afford to live. 

I moved out of state for a year to North Carolina and hated it.  The Bay area 
offers designers amazing career opportunities, rich cultural institutions, 
great weather, great education, etc. At this point I would not consider moving 
anywhere else just because I'm enjoying life here too much.

----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Saffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: IxDA Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:26:08 AM
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?



On 
Feb 
20, 
2008, 
at 
12:05 
PM, 
dave 
malouf 
wrote:

> 
2) 
Like 
what 
David 
Shaw 
said. 
You've 
gotta 
be 
nutz, 
coocoo, 
and 
just
> 
insane 
to 
leave 
anyplace 
including 
NYC 
and 
move 
to 
SF 
unless 
you 
were
> 
guaranteed 
something 
between 
$150k-$200k, 
and 
HUGE 
relocation 
package
> 
upwards 
of 
$20-$30k. 
Having 
done 
relocates 
to 
both 
coasts 
I'm 
pretty
> 
familiar 
with 
what 
it 
takes 
at 
this 
point.

Wow. 
I 
want 
to 
work 
where 
you 
work! 
Most 
interaction 
designers 
I 
know  
in 
the 
Bay 
Area 
don't 
make 
anywhere 
close 
to 
this 
amount. 
I'd 
say  
about 
half 
of 
this 
($75-100k) 
is 
about 
average.

I 
moved 
to 
SF 
in 
my 
mid-30s 
(with 
a 
family 
I 
should 
add) 
and 
yes, 
I  
won't 
be 
buying 
a 
house 
anytime 
soon, 
but 
if 
what's 
important 
to 
you  
is 
doing 
really 
interesting 
work 
surrounded 
by 
a 
high 
calibre  
interaction 
design 
community, 
the 
Bay 
Area 
is 
hard 
to 
beat. 
The 
access  
you 
get 
to 
some 
amazing 
people 
and 
companies 
(startups 
and 
giants  
alike) 
is 
almost 
unreal. 
In 
a 
few 
block 
radius 
from 
my 
office 
there 
is  
frog, 
Twitter, 
Yahoo 
labs, 
Cooper, 
Hot, 
IDEO, 
Six 
Apart, 
Technorati,  
Adobe, 
Nokia...the 
list 
goes 
on 
and 
on.

Location 
still 
matters.

Dan


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