To that point - those of us who *have* been hiring managers in the past - if we want things to change - we have to take responsibility for partnering with HR/Recruiter people. I have spent many an hour on the phone just talking about the issues, skills, mindset, background of people that might be a match - and educating about IxD and IA along the way.
BTW: Has anyone noticed the BIG shift in the last 7 years of a whole crop of new "recruiters" following a new business model. In essence - they have taken the call center business model, extended it to recruiting and outsourced it to India. All the initial job board search/keyword matching and initial screening is done there (with US phone#, business address), and once the initial screening is done - candidates are passed along to client facing recruiters in based in the US. I have no idea if this is a long term trend, but with growth in real wages in call center places like Bangalore - I can't see this as sustainable, and it may move again to the Philippines. Just find it interesting - no point to this I guess. On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:16:09, dave malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei, > To get back to your question, if you are still listening. > 1) The market is just harshin' right now. > 2) Your specific criteria of combining (I'm not arguing the merits) > code & design skills in a single person/role is even harder to find. > The bulk of this generation of designers is just not trained as such. > > If I were you I would recruit heavily from the "interactive design" > programs at art/design/technical schools and build the specifics of > IxD talent you need through mentorship. There is no program > concentrating on IxD or even a segment of IxD that will create the > type of designer you are looking for. > > Basically, you're going to have to breed your own. > > I know you are connected with SJState, and I'm sure that you can try > to hook into Art Institute and CCA as well to find the junior talent. > There are more visual aestheticists technologists than there are > behavioral aestheticists technologists out there. And finding all 3 > in 1 person I haven't seen in a resume in a long time and I would > love to have it! > > Oh! and if I found it, I wouldn't tell you b/c I'm hiring!!!! > > 3) I don't think there is anything going on in SV that isn't going > on in the other hubs around the world. It might feel "worse", but > everyone is struggling. Join the pity party! > > 4) People have keyed in on some good issues about the way we talk > about ourselves and the issues around HR/IxD relationships that as an > org and as a community of practice we have to do a better job with. > BTW, I have been trying to settle on a definition and create firm > labels for half a decade now and well, you and I just disagree. ;) > > -- dave > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Posted from the new ixda.org > http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=26170 > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > -- ~ will "No matter how beautiful, no matter how cool your interface, it would be better if there were less of it." Alan Cooper - "Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems" ------------------------------------------------------- will evans user experience architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
