Brian - thanks for the thorough and thoughtful response.

The "we'll go to three" levels of navigation is one that I'm wrestling
with right now. We're using a similar criteria as our first cut, and
then diving deeper or coming up where appropriate. Like anything I
expect, determining where existing content lives in the new IA is
based upon a set of criteria.  For me, these include:

* place in current IA
* place in physical domain directory structure
* whether the content seems globally relevant vs. very specific
* who owns it currently
* the nature of its current IA or design

'Course, none of these are  absolute qualifiers -- they're odors, if
nothing else. And, there's always the concern that not enough
attention is given to really reorganizing the deep content. But I
guess at some point, life moves on. :)

Cheers,
Todd



On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Bryan Minihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a very similar political/IA problem a few years ago redesigning
> an intranet portal for a very large company (120K  employees, 42
> countries, 18 languages, and extremely distributed content
> development, including 9000 custom "widgets" we had no control
> over).
>
> To cut to the chase (it was an 18 month project, more or less), we
> got reps from each BU to agree on the depth and scope of the top of
> the taxonomy, and commitment to adopt that throughout their
> navigation.  Everything below the first 3 levels was their own
> domain, and it worked very well considering once you got past the 1st
> 3 layers of navigation, you were in "your own BU space" anyway and
> most of the content down there had to be very specific to what you
> were looking for.
>
> Some groups had very loose, shallow taxonomies (e.g. HR), but our R&D
> dept, for instance, had at least 10 more levels below the top 3, and
> about 9 different vectors across which they sliced.
>
> The UI was a little easier, because we already had a common global
> stylesheet and color theme everyone had agreed to adopt.  On the
> other hand, we tended not to strictly enforce design standards in
> highly-specific apps, and opted instead to call attention to any
> content that appeared to "general employees".  That meant about 80%
> of the publicly navigable UI looked and behaved the same, while the
> BUs had a large number of apps to feel comfortable in and design for
> specific expert groups (fewer complaints, and cheaper for them to
> outsource, that is =]).
>
> As for your questions:
> Incentives?  For the UI, we used a ton of industry accessibility
> reports and user feedback illustrating how the standard styles and
> fonts we chose were more usable and accessible.  For the taxonomy,
> the big incentive was that if we could optimize everyone's ability
> to get down to the deepest levels of the company as fast as possible.
>  Our central group maintained the motto:  Our job is to get people to
> your content without having to think about it.  That helped everyone
> see that we weren't trying to reorganize their BUs, but were just
> trying to help everyone work better.
>
> Managing expectations?  After convening our BU reps, they did much of
> the work for us, but we had a pretty good roadmap following our
> initial design and a dozen or so "road shows" to get everyone
> comfortable with what we were, and weren't, planning to do.
>
> Determining boundaries?  The rule of thumb we used was: If a taxonomy
> change generally makes the "global news", it probably belongs in the
> global taxonomy.  Or better yet, if a changed required very
> domain-specific experts to work through a global bureaucracy to
> change one of their apps or add a menu item, it was probably too
> specific to be in the global taxonomy.
>
> What didn't work?
> - Trying to map out what the entire taxonomy might look like,
> including every BU and global item in a single layer.  No one
> understood it and it was obsolute 2 hours before we finished - waste
> of time.  We wound up showing the top 3 layers and a few sample sites
> to illustrate how it might appear.
>
> - Using dummy 'lorem ipsum' text in our mockups.  If I had a dime
> for every time someone asked us for "the english mockups", I'd be
> rich.
>
> - Trying to delegate maintenance of the global taxonomy to specific
> groups, or trying to create a group to manage it.  Wound up
> leveraging existing governance teams who had very little time to
> review/approve suggested changes.  This also helped clarify how much
> throttling the global taxonomy could take, and winnowed out a few
> misplaced items early on after the redesign.
>
> If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me offline.
> I couldn't resist posting here since your situation sounded exactly
> like where I was a few years back.  Best of luck, I hope you have
> some good contacts throughout the business =]
>
>
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