Hi Will,

I don't think we'll be seeing the disposal of the back/forward model
anytime soon.

The available documentation seems to indicate that there are specialized
non-browser-like capsules available in which users can choose to run web
apps. This reminds me of the Prism project
(http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/) which essentially provides a
browser window, minus fluffery, in which to run applications. There are
other similar options available that do the same thing, and I make use
of several in order to run Gmail and facebook, which I keep as
launchable-apps in my dock.

More likely, we may see some evolution in which browsers recognize the
nature of the site / app they are displaying and provide appropriate
controls, or at least control warnings. May not happen anytime soon.

I am very interested to see how Chrome handles precisely the issue you
bring up. Can't wait to install it tonight.

Good food for thought. Things are changing out there. Fast.

Will Evans wrote:
> @daveIxD made an interesting point earlier today which I think is worth
> exploring. In a "browser" built from the ground-up for delivering RIAs -- we
> seem to be hitting a metaphor conflict. If we are using Chrome for RIAs,
> then the browse-document mental model no longer works, and neither does all
> it's associated baggage, i.e. the "Back" button.
>
> Will apps designed for this new browser toss out the browse-doc model with
> it's back, forward, and replace it with a more App-appropriate mental model
> that includes a robust Action-Commit-Undo-Redo functionality? I mean -
> really - in today's apps like, CS3, you don't browse - so this new Chrome
> should or should not be called a browser? Not sure, but I can see the
> train-wreck caused by this cognitive dissonance. Would Chrome as an RIA App
> Shell rock - especially if we finally had a robust undo? Absolutely. How
> about a history of actions like I have in CS3? I would love that, but for
> many users, this switch requires a gestalt switch. At the most basic
> metaphorical level, these are two very different models, with different user
> expectations.
>
> @daveIxD - Dude, you have been teaching RIA - how would you handle this?
>
> PS: The comic was nice.
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:25 PM, pauric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> regarding my comic book gripes, I'm referring to the link floating
>> around on the internets
>> http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
>>
>> as opposed to the slightly less constrained view in the original
>> poster's link
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYC &printsec=frontcover
>>
>>
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