They are relevant in that they provide a platform for everyone to get and stay 
connected with anyone they have ever known. I am defining mainstream as non 
cutting edge (read fickle) users. By appealing to tech laggards there is less 
risk that they suffer the fate of Friendster. Inertia will work in their favor.

Patrick V. Barrett


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How are they relevant and how do you define mainstream? Everyone (except me) 
goes there - for what purpose?

I wonder how they might monetize their eyeballs relative to others, and why 
they even matter? I argue they don't, and they can't.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Patrick Barrett <[EMAIL 
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Facebook is just now becoming relevant to a mainstream audience--something no 
other social network has done before. Their traffic and membership continue to 
grow at a pretty good clip. I don't have the answer for how they can monetize 
their traffic, but I think moving beyond college students is a smart move.

Patrick Barrett

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Weighing in.
Facebook became obsolete a while ago. Soon to become the relic of
Yahoo, aka Geocities.
All of these sites will eventually fail unless they address something
of value. Currently they are all riding the plummet of social
entertainment. They have mainly ignored their core audiences: Myspace
was music, Facebook was college students and grad students. Both have
annoying advertisements that have no context...just battering people
over the head to make advertising money on which is steadily
declining...How long do you really need to stay on either site to
catch up? Not long, because all of the new changes you can get a
snapshot of everything now in under 5 minutes. That leaves no
incentive to stay on the site. All the widgets and mini-apps that bog
down both sites are 99% pointless because people just add and delete
them sometimes within hours or minutes.
In summation, you can't please everyone any of the time. They
abandoned their niches and have been sliding downhill since. Social
entertainment is not robust enough to keep users online and engaged.
I use both Myspace and Facebook, but am not pleased with either. I
use them mostly for keeping up with friends and birthdays and posting
pictures of my some what ridiculous but fun cooking antics.


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