On 11 Nov 2008, at 14:30, Jared Spool wrote:

On Nov 11, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Adrian Howard wrote:

On 11 Nov 2008, at 02:51, Livia Labate wrote:
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How far removed from the ultimate user goal/ambition is the step/ thing I need to design? The more layers of abstraction between the atomic tasks or set of tasks that represent an activity and the end goal for the user, more helpful a UCD approach. The less abstract/more direct, more helpful ACD.

            <-- ACD usefulness grows
focus on ACTIVITY -------------------- focus on USER GOALS
               UCD usefulness grows -->

Ah - this actually makes sense to me. ACD & UCD as different ends of a spectrum - rather than different things.

I don't see that. You can't design with a focus on user goals without thinking about activity. So, in my mind, they are not different ends of the spectrum. ACD ignores goals, needs, and context, whereas UCD does not. It's a superset / subset relationship.
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I guess this leads back to my question of not really getting how ACD can ignore goals/needs/context - coz I don't see how you can think about activities without having some concept, however minimal, of the end users goals, needs and context.

It briefly made sense to me as:
* ACD = uses activity as the driver for design (supported by user models when necessary) * UCD = uses the user as the driver for design (supported by activity models when necessary)

But you're right - it's subset/superset.

So... I still don't get ACD... can somebody point me to some background reading that might clarify it for me?

Cheers,

Adrian
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