The current project I am working on, i did the visual design and then
volunteered to be a part of the QA team, I realized that there were so many
things which the QA guys were giving a miss and doing a QA from a designer's
perspective has really been beneficial for the project. Also I am not  leading
the QA team but just a team member, doing QA from a different perspective  so
in that regard I agree with Jim that a designer should not be in charge of
the QA  process, as they  are not trained for it. I think that's why its
working in my current project .



Sonica

Visual Designer
New Delhi India




On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Jim Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In this thinking, turn things around: while you might have a QA engineer or
> two who provide great input on design ideas, would you put QA in charge of
> the design process?  Probably not: their expertise may sometimes approach or
> overlap those needed for design, but there will be holes, gaps, and so
> forth.  Unless you are truly cross-training, you're going to end up with
> ultimately inferior results.
>
> Which isn't to say that having QA involved in the design process, or Design
> in the QA process, isn't a great idea.  It most certainly is.
>
> Watch out as well for asking designers to do QA work on the items they
> designed.  They can easily be way too picky and/or unable to look at the
> pieces they designed with a fresh eye, to see interactions and different
> angles.  Better to use their designer eye to look at other aspects of the
> product.
>
> -- Jim Drew
>   Seattle, WA
>   Software QA for 18 years
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:36 AM, Damon Dimmick wrote:
>
> The company I work for is a very lean, fast moving company, and we're
>> constantly looking for ways to tighten our product life cycle timelines.
>>
>> One thing we've noticed in the last few months is that IxDA (and general
>> design practitioners) have been extremely valuable not just during the
>> design phase of a product, but also during the ongoing Quality Assurance
>> / Quality Control phases as well as the final Quality Acceptance phases
>> of the product lifecycle.
>>
>> This being the case, we're experimenting with the idea of putting IxDA
>> people in charge (or in review positions within) the QA process. I've
>> been playing around with this model myself on a couple of projects with
>> very strong results. The net benefit seems to derive from the fact that
>> there is really no one better to certify that a product meets QA
>> requirements than the very people that identified the necessary
>> interactions, UI results, and full design elements to begin with.
>>
>> So far, this also seems to fit in nicely with the fact that our design
>> team tends to be very busy at the start of the project (front loading
>> interaction design and then visual design) and then gets much less busy
>> as the development cycle begins and ends. It seems a really good use of
>> our time to swoop back in after the design phase and act as part of the
>> QA process, making sure that developers are conforming to our
>> specifications via a formal testing structure.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with this kind of
>> structure, and if so, what challenges, results, and tips can you share?
>> We're sort of excited about the idea on our end, as our initial forays
>> into this model have really helped projects move along faster and with
>> better results. Being a small/midsized team, we don't have a large QA
>> department, so this allocation of resources seems to fill a lot of gaps.
>>
>> Any thoughts out there among my colleagues?
>>
>
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