I would say that it doesn't matter if you get a VM or bare metal as long as their is a provisioning API. If you have to open a ticket to get a machine and talk with a salesperson, you're just hosting :-)
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Sean OMeara <[email protected]> wrote: > In my (and a lot of other people's) mind, what differentiates an IaaS > "Cloud Provider" from a simple VPS provider is the presence of an API > interface to do operations on storage and compute resources. > > So, for example > > AWS EC2 == Cloud > > Linode == Cloud > > Rackspace "Cloud Servers" (formerly the Slicehost tech) == Cloud > > GoGrid == Cloud > > Rackspace "Old school service offering, rebranded as Private cloud" == > Not a Cloud > > Ye Ole Hosting provider with a VMWare Cluster marketing their offering > as "Private Cloud" == Not a Cloud (unless they expose the vSphere API > to you) > > Your Corporate IT Department's VMWare Cluster, where you have to fill > out paperwork and get the blessing of the SAN administrator to > provision a VM == Not a Cloud > > Internal Openstack or Eucalyptus driven internal "self service", API > accessible provisioning == Cloud. > > For a really good example of a cloud programming library, see here: > https://github.com/geemus/fog/tree/master/lib/fog/providers > > > /2 cents > > -s > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> just the topic of what "Cloud" means is a substantial presentation on it's >>> own. >> >> Ive stopped using the term cloud except when being generic or ironic. >> I use SaaS, IaaS and PaaS so that I say exactly what I mean. >> >> SaaS: Software as as Service: Salesforce.com, EventBright.com, Google >> Apps, etc. >> IaaS: Infrastructure as as Service: Amazon EC2, Eucalyptus, etc. >> PaaS: Platform as a Service: Google App Engine and similar systems. >> >> Alternatively... >> SaaS: It's a web site! >> IaaS: It's a VM! >> PaaS: It's a framework! >> >> Tom >> P.S. This article gives some good definitions. It isn't that >> technical and I can give it to CTOs and executives: >> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/4/81493-a-view-of-cloud-computing/fulltext >> >> -- >> See you in Boston! >> Dec 4-9, Boston, Usenix LISA, www.usenix.org/event/lisa11 >> Dec 4-5, Boston, ACM CHIMIT, chimit.acm.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> > -- See you in Boston! Dec 4-9, Boston, Usenix LISA, www.usenix.org/event/lisa11 Dec 4-5, Boston, ACM CHIMIT, chimit.acm.org _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
