JBS> In particular, I assume that if you declined the free membership,
JBS> they wouldn't kick you out of the conference, right?
DB> If I declined the membership, knowing what I know, I'd expect to get a
DB> discount since the conference would no longer need to pay the national.
First, that doesn't at all contradict what I'm saying, which is that you
don't have to join LOPSA in order to attend the conference, in precisely
the way that you *do* have to join the union in order to work at a union
shop.
Second, can you think of any other example that works the way you'r
describing? A situation where you pay X for one thing, get a free extra
thing from Y which maybe you do or don't want, and if you decline the free
thing, X doesn't pay Y for the free thing you didn't get?
I don't think it ever works that way.
JBS> There's nothing wrong with "capturing" members this way. It means
JBS> your membership numbers don't reflect "how many people think our
JBS> organization is a worthwhile organization to pay $50/yr to join",
JBS> because lots of your members joined without having to pay for it,
DB> Except that they *did* pay for it. They just had the conference
DB> organizers acting as middle-men and were given no choice in the matter.
Sure, everyone eventually pays for something. It's "free" to the person
attending the conference if the conference fee is $X whether or not you
get a membership.
My point is just that LOPSA can't tell how many people would pay $50 join
LOPSA if a lot of people are joining LOPSA without having to make that
decision; this is a hazard of giving away "free" memberships (or more
precisely, having someone else pay for memberships other than the member).
-Josh ([email protected])
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