> Ot was just a suggestion. If you want to crap all over me for it, then so be it.
I don't think people where crapping all over you for it. But, they where expressing why slack (and IM/chat in general ) isn't a good replacement for mailing lists. > However, whatever - I’d say Slack’s success speaks for itself. I don’t see how mailing lists are any better than Slack. If you do - then good for you. Just because a tools is successful doesn't say anything besides it is good enough. I've looked at slack and from a "corporate tool" perspective it scares me. They do some scary things for convenience. But we arn't talking about slack in a corporate setting. We are talking about slack as a replacement for Mailing Lists. Simply they are two different types of communications, and they really arn't compatible to replace each other. Chat/IM/IRC is a more immediate type of communication system. It's meant for ephemeral discussions, and is really good at it. It replicates the ability to have ad-hoc conversations very well. But they are not that discoverable, achievable, and they are very synchronous. Email is a decidedly async method of communication. It is much more archive-able, searchable, and discoverable. I regularly am able to track down archived emails with just a word or two of remembered context. I've found it to be nearly impossible to do with chat systems. It is a communication medium that doesn't demand an immediate response as well as being able to easily go back and read up on threads that happend back in time. Basically Slack/IRC/Chat/IM and email are serving two difference communication needs. On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Allan Irving <[email protected] > wrote: > Personally, for my startup I don’t use the free service so the comments > regarding the free service are irrelevant. > > Ot was just a suggestion. If you want to crap all over me for it, then so > be it. > > However, whatever - I’d say Slack’s success speaks for itself. I don’t see > how mailing lists are any better than Slack. If you do - then good for you. > > Such a negative vibe / element of rudeness on this mailing list. Safe to > say I won’t be renewing my membership as it would appear that easy / > archaic solutions are more appealing to the majority here. Most sysadmins > move with the times. Slack might not be the solution but many other more > advanced solutions are. If you’re so bothered about security, use PGP. As > you aren’t, I don’t see how you can talk as such. > > Regardless - I was just putting it out there but your rude and responses > have just lost you a member. > > As before - all the best. > > > > On 12 Jul 2015, at 21:52, Allan Irving <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We are debating this as an alternative to a mailing list. Don’t get ahead > of yourself. As an alternative, I think it works. However, you can > disagree. Please don’t male assumptions regarding ‘cool kids; or whatever > you want to presume. That really isn’t the case. However, if you can’t see > how mailing lists are more insecure than Slack - then what does that say > about your career? > > How about you create what you want regarding x, y and z as opposed to > slating something that DOES perform the function of what this mailing list > is in a better way? > > Seeing as you are making assumptions let me I shall assume that you are a > dinosaur that would rather use email over something else. Now, please - you > should know the pitfalls of email. I did not say Slack was x, y or z. I > just see it as a better alternative. > > FWIW: Slack does scale. + if it’s working for corporations, what makes > this mailing list so unique or different that it can’t help it along the > way? > > Making assumptions never ends well - as you have just evidenced. > > > > On 12 Jul 2015, at 21:41, Brandon Allbery <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Allan Irving < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> You can stay in the dark ages but some of us are thinking ahead. Given >> the responses, it is clear to me that moving on into the modern century is >> the way forward. >> > > Slack is only forward in "coolness", not in security, privacy, or anything > else important. If we are to move forward, can we have something that is > actually *forward* instead of just another badly done insecure webapp that > cool kids think is The Future because it is Shiny and who cares about > whether it (a) works (b) scales (c) is secure (d) is private? > > -- > brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine > associates > [email protected] > [email protected] > unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad > http://sinenomine.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > >
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