On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Casey Cain <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Zoom has a very powerful and easy to use platform for moving licences
> between accounts.
> Moving a licence  day to day to different users only takes a few clicks.
> While it does add an extra minute of overhead to my schedule, it is
> something that is easily managed.
> I don't think that the licencing should be a deciding factor.  I just want
> to properly inform the technical community of the differences between the
> platforms.
>
Would this apply to the weekly meetings? Do the meeting numbers and dialins
remain the same? Everyone is used to dialing the same meeting each week.
Sometimes you don't know you won't be there until just before the meeting
but you can find another leader to run the meeting, but I could see trying
to track down an lF admin to swap out a license as not working. This being
said, I am surprised Zoom doesn't have a better solution. Maybe we can
check again on this.

Bluejeans is nice in that the meeting owner does not have to be present.
The weekly netvirt, hwvtep and genius calls can all start from the first
person who dials in. Recordings are started automatically. There are mac,
windows and linux (rpm) clients. Other linux distros can use the web client
via chrome - as well as any other platform can use chrome.

All the meetings have been worldwide from the states to israel to india.
Quality has been good. There are audio issues sometimes but those seem to
be more on the user side - like laptop mic wrong, speakers feeding back or
network bandwidth flapping.

>
> Best,
> Casey
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Goulding <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The community is somewhat ephemeral in terms of participation. I could
>> see this becoming an issue with some projects.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Casey Cain <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There will be 1-2 floating accounts that will be shared with the TSC/PTLs
>> for use and then we will sponsor accounts for some members who host regular
>> community meetings.
>>
>> Best,
>> Casey
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Casey Cain <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Everyone!
>>>
>>> At the request of the Technical Community I have been investigating
>>> alternative conference platforms for OpenDaylight to use to conduct weekly
>>> and impromptu meetings.
>>>
>>> The community has gravitated to 2 solutions.  Zoom and Bluejeans.  Most
>>> of the community is familiar with Bluejeans and has likely used it at one
>>> point.  Zoom is a relative newcomer to the conference scene but is very
>>> popular and becoming rapidly adopted by a number of organizations including
>>> the Linux Foundation and several of it's Incorporated Projects.
>>>
>>> Both platforms have feature parity for the basics of conferencing. HD
>>> Audio and Video, Ability to connect from China, Mobile app support for iOS
>>> and Android, MP4 Recordings, 50 participants per call (Upgradeable), Local
>>> Dial in numbers in 70+ countries, Per user based licence model
>>>
>>> There are some key differences though.
>>>
>>> Zoom has full cross platform support for Linux, Windows and Mac as well
>>> as some interesting collaborative features and in conference polling.  Zoom
>>> does have limited Cloud storage, but this is offset by the ability for
>>> users to record locally.  Zoom's biggest flaw that I have seen so far is
>>> that a paid licence (from the same account that scheduled the meeting) must
>>> be logged into the meeting or it will end automatically after 40 minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>> And what is the plan to overcome this? Will you or other LF folks be
>>> logged to all ODL meetings?
>>>
>>> Zoom will cost the OpenDaylight Project $1,650/y
>>>
>>> Bluejeans does not have full cross-platform support for Linux but does
>>> support Mac, Windows and mobile platforms.  Despite the lack of full Linux
>>> platform support, Bluejeans does have a web client that works on all
>>> platforms (*though it is currently buggy).  The advantages of Bluejeans are
>>> Unlimited cloud storage and the scheduler of the meeting is not required to
>>> be present during the meeting, though some collaborative features such as
>>> recording will be disabled if the host is not present.
>>> Bluejeans will cost the OpenDaylight Project $3,000/y
>>>
>>> The OpenDaylight trial period for Zoom expires on April 18th and the
>>> offer from Bluejeans at $25 per licence (Down from $79 per licence) expires
>>> on April 21st.
>>>
>>> I would like to get the technical communities feedback and vote on which
>>> platform they believe the OpenDaylight project should migrate to.
>>>
>>> I have also scheduled an open discussion using the Zoom platform for the
>>> Monday TWS call:
>>>
>>> Monday @ 10AM, PST.
>>> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/740662219
>>>
>>> Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll):  +14086380968 <(408)%20638-0968>,740662219#
>>> or +16465588656 <(646)%20558-8656>,740662219#
>>>
>>> Or Telephone:
>>>     Dial: +1 408 638 0968 <(408)%20638-0968> (US Toll) or +1 646 558
>>> 8656 <(646)%20558-8656> (US Toll)
>>>     Meeting ID: 740 662 219
>>>     International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference
>>> ?m=bxg9Uo1wEja4DXXdT14gLFhsGBHdaMym
>>>
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>>
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