On 04/14/2017 05:07 PM, Anil Vishnoi wrote: > I am using linux, so not using webex is a good news for me :). I used > bluejeans for attending netvirt meeting and used zoom > couple of time as well. I didn't do any detail feature level comparison but i > think Bluejeans is more convinient for me > because of two simple reason (1) You can run it on browser, no explicit > installation required(2) It allows me to unmute by > pressing the space button, rather than pressing mute button all the time > :-). > > Both of these features are not really a deal breaker for zoom as well, so my > vote goes to the one that Jamo selects (i have > my reasons for that ;-) ).
Anil votes BJN. JamO > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Is there a road map from either of these two products that would address > the "flaws/shortcomings" in a near future release ? > > Regards, > Vasu Srinivasan > ----------------------------------- > vagartham.wordpress.com <http://vagartham.wordpress.com> > vasya10.wordpress.com <http://vasya10.wordpress.com> > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Sam Hague <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Casey Cain > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Zoom has a very powerful and easy to use platform for moving > licences between accounts. > Moving a licence day to day to different users only takes a few > clicks. While it does add an extra minute of > overhead to my schedule, it is something that is easily managed. > I don't think that the licencing should be a deciding factor. I > just want to properly inform the technical > community of the differences between the platforms. > > Would this apply to the weekly meetings? Do the meeting numbers and > dialins remain the same? Everyone is used to > dialing the same meeting each week. Sometimes you don't know you > won't be there until just before the meeting but you > can find another leader to run the meeting, but I could see trying to > track down an lF admin to swap out a license as > not working. This being said, I am surprised Zoom doesn't have a > better solution. Maybe we can check again on this. > > Bluejeans is nice in that the meeting owner does not have to be > present. The weekly netvirt, hwvtep and genius calls > can all start from the first person who dials in. Recordings are > started automatically. There are mac, windows and > linux (rpm) clients. Other linux distros can use the web client via > chrome - as well as any other platform can use > chrome. > > All the meetings have been worldwide from the states to israel to > india. Quality has been good. There are audio > issues sometimes but those seem to be more on the user side - like > laptop mic wrong, speakers feeding back or network > bandwidth flapping. > > > Best, > Casey > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Goulding > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The community is somewhat ephemeral in terms of > participation. I could see this becoming an issue with some > projects. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Casey Cain > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> There will be 1-2 floating accounts that will be shared with >> the TSC/PTLs for use and then we will sponsor >> accounts for some members who host regular community >> meetings. >> >> Best, >> Casey >> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Luis Gomez >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Casey Cain >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, Everyone! >>> >>> At the request of the Technical Community I have been >>> investigating alternative conference platforms >>> for OpenDaylight to use to conduct weekly and impromptu >>> meetings. >>> >>> The community has gravitated to 2 solutions. Zoom and >>> Bluejeans. Most of the community is familiar >>> with Bluejeans and has likely used it at one point. >>> Zoom is a relative newcomer to the conference >>> scene but is very popular and becoming rapidly adopted >>> by a number of organizations including the >>> Linux Foundation and several of it's Incorporated >>> Projects. >>> >>> Both platforms have feature parity for the basics of >>> conferencing. HD Audio and Video, Ability to >>> connect from China, Mobile app support for iOS and >>> Android, MP4 Recordings, 50 participants per call >>> (Upgradeable), Local Dial in numbers in 70+ countries, >>> Per user based licence model >>> >>> There are some key differences though. >>> >>> Zoom has full cross platform support for Linux, Windows >>> and Mac as well as some interesting >>> collaborative features and in conference polling. Zoom >>> does have limited Cloud storage, but this is >>> offset by the ability for users to record locally. >>> Zoom's biggest flaw that I have seen so far is >>> that a paid licence (from the same account that >>> scheduled the meeting) must be logged into the meeting >>> or it will end automatically after 40 minutes. >> >> And what is the plan to overcome this? Will you or other >> LF folks be logged to all ODL meetings? >> >>> Zoom will cost the OpenDaylight Project $1,650/y >>> >>> Bluejeans does not have full cross-platform support for >>> Linux but does support Mac, Windows and mobile >>> platforms. Despite the lack of full Linux platform >>> support, Bluejeans does have a web client that >>> works on all platforms (*though it is currently buggy). >>> The advantages of Bluejeans are Unlimited >>> cloud storage and the scheduler of the meeting is not >>> required to be present during the meeting, >>> though some collaborative features such as recording >>> will be disabled if the host is not present. >>> Bluejeans will cost the OpenDaylight Project $3,000/y >>> >>> The OpenDaylight trial period for Zoom expires on April >>> 18th and the offer from Bluejeans at $25 per >>> licence (Down from $79 per licence) expires on April >>> 21st. >>> >>> I would like to get the technical communities feedback >>> and vote on which platform they believe the >>> OpenDaylight project should migrate to. >>> >>> I have also scheduled an open discussion using the Zoom >>> platform for the Monday TWS call: >>> >>> Monday @ 10AM, PST. >>> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: >>> https://zoom.us/j/740662219 >>> >>> Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +14086380968 >>> <tel:(408)%20638-0968>,740662219# or +16465588656 >>> <tel:(646)%20558-8656>,740662219# >>> >>> Or Telephone: >>> Dial: +1 408 638 0968 <tel:(408)%20638-0968> (US >>> Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 <tel:(646)%20558-8656> >>> (US Toll) >>> Meeting ID: 740 662 219 >>> International numbers available: >>> https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=bxg9Uo1wEja4DXXdT14gLFhsGBHdaMym >>> >>> <https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=bxg9Uo1wEja4DXXdT14gLFhsGBHdaMym> >>> >>> -- >>> Casey Cain >>> Technical Program Manager >>> Linux Foundation >>> _________________ >>> IRC - CaseyODL >>> Skype - wrathwolfk >>> WeChat - okaru6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Casey Cain >> Technical Program Manager >> Linux Foundation >> _________________ >> IRC - CaseyODL >> Skype - wrathwolfk >> WeChat - okaru6 >> _______________________________________________ >> TSC mailing list >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >> <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc> > > > > > -- > Casey Cain > Technical Program Manager > Linux Foundation > _________________ > IRC - CaseyODL > Skype - wrathwolfk > WeChat - okaru6 > > _______________________________________________ > TSC mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > <https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > > > > > -- > Thanks > Anil > > > _______________________________________________ > TSC mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
