Darrell, you might have some points Let me add, that OSGeo might seem in *some* communities irrelevant, because we, as OSGeo, did not manage to push our brand in the front even on *our* FOSS4G conference (I still remember no OSGeo logo being visible around). OSGeo will be visible only to the point, where our members will make it visible on their events.
Certainly, clear renewed vision would help and no doubt, there are people on the Board (currently - and nominated), which are fully aware of this. And the board list, as well as every meeting is publicly accessible - everybody can help. My observation: volunteer time is limited. Either I dedicate it to OSGeo infrastructure, or to my project (which I would like to see grow too). That's life. Now I take rest and hope to contribute more to both Just my irrelevant 2cents J P.S. Talking is cheap. Show me the code. (Linus Torvalds) so 26. 9. 2015 v 17:20 odesílatel Darrell Fuhriman <darr...@garnix.org> napsal: > This is a perfect example. > > All of those are great and wonderful things! The community does great and > wonderful things. That’ s not my point. > > My point is, those activities would happen even if the OSGeo Foundation > disappeared. I’m not questioning whether we have a large and vibrant > community, we do. And we still would. > > My local chapter existed before it was an OSGeo chapter, and we would keep > on having meetings and doing fun and exciting things even without the OSGeo > Foundation. > > Put another way: The OSGeo Foundation needs the Open Source Geospatial > community, but does the Open Source Geospatial community need the OSGeo > Foundation? I don’t see that it does. > > Darrell > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2015, at 05:29, Just van den Broecke <j...@justobjects.nl> > wrote: > > > > Dear Milo, > > > > That you agree Darrel's statements is your opinion and fine in any open > discussion. > > > > I react here on your phrase: '"empty talkers" from my country run for > charter membership'. > > > > We have 9 Charter Members from the Netherlands, including me. I know > each of them, and IMO they are far from "empty talkers". They all spend > long voluntary hours in an array of activities that support OSGeo's global > and OSGeo.nl local mission and FOSS in general. To name a few: > > Sebastiaan Couwenberg (2015) spends ample time in Debian packaging > > Barend Köbben (2012) helping/speaking at FOSS4G, org academic track > > We all know what Jeroen and Bart have accomplished. I could go on. Not > all charter members need to make software, some make things happen like > organizing local OSGeo.nl events and acting in the LOC for the upcoming > FOSS4G in Bonn. > > > > So I hope your "empty talkers" phrase came out of a sudden impulse, that > we all have from time to time. I had to react to clarify some things. Best, > > > > Just van den Broecke > > Secretary OSGeo.nl Foundation > > > > > > On 26-09-15 00:12, Milo van der Linden wrote: > >> Being a "don't talk, act" member since 2008, entrepreneur and former > >> chairman of a couple of local initiatives, I strongly agree. > >> > >> Seeing all the "empty talkers" from my country run for charter > >> membership and still not having geoserver, which is the most mature open > >> geospatial product I can think of pas incubation made me completely lose > >> interest in OSGeo. > >> > >> I am disappointed, a little frustrated and plotting a business course > >> that values open source and open knowledge. OSGeo or any in-crowd will > >> have no part in my future. > >> > >> Thank you for your honest and to the point analyses. > >> > >> Milo > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
_______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
