We were also dealing with a *real* pair of dicks. I mean those landlords. Holy hell. That was a bad experience all around!
On 2 November 2012 10:07, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > We have to be at least somewhat wary, since we just finished getting > screwed by taking the "we'll just agree by talking to each other and not > put it in the lease explicitly" style of negotiation. > > Ron > > On 2012-11-02 09:57, Justin Lacko wrote: >> It usually isn't written into the lease, but rather submitted under >> separate cover. Something like "we plan to hang some posters on the >> wall/etc." and they write back "that's fine" >> >> On 2 November 2012 08:05, Lynn Kendrick <soccer_trek...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > We need to get all of the stuff that has been discussed with the landlord >> > written into the lease. If they say they won't charge us certain taxes it >> > has to be in writing or else we will probably be charged it at sometime. >> > As well, if "no modifications" really means only small modifications that >> > needs to be specified as well and what exactly we can and can't do or else >> > we will likely be charged at some point. Same of course for anything else >> > on the lease that we have had verbal discussions with the landlord for. >> > >> > --- On *Fri, 2/11/12, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net>* wrote: >> > >> > >> > From: chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> >> > >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] 374 Dolan lease >> > To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca >> > Date: Friday, 2 November, 2012, 7:20 >> > >> > >> > Naw; I don't want to stop every two weeks to have a scrum to decide where >> > everything is moving for the next two weeks. At least not for the walls. >> > >> > But mobile walls could be good. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Nathan T. Wild >> > <nathan.w...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=nathan.w...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > I really like this idea. Having a reconfigurable space like that could be >> > extremely handy. >> > >> > We could be the world's first full-on agile hackerspace :) >> > Nathan T. Wild >> > Ralph Brown Community Centre Inc. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Benjamin Bergman >> > <b...@benbergman.ca<http://mc/compose?to=b...@benbergman.ca> >> > > >> > Sender: discuss-bounces@lists.skullspace.caDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:25:01 >> > To: >> > <discuss@lists.skullspace.ca<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lists.skullspace.ca> >> > > >> > Reply-To: >> > discuss@lists.skullspace.ca<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lists.skullspace.ca> >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] 374 Dolan lease >> > >> > Freestanding walls have the added benefit of allowing us to >> > temporarily move them around for a larger event (ie if we have a >> > really large user group meet up, a large party, etc). >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Justin Lacko >> > <jus...@takaji.ca<http://mc/compose?to=jus...@takaji.ca>> >> > wrote: >> > > Ric's definitely got something with the hanging baffles - we use that >> > > in architectural projects at work sometimes. >> > > >> > > On 1 November 2012 22:27, Jeremy Hiebert >> > > <jkhieb...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jkhieb...@gmail.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >> To be honest, I only posted that because some people think it will be >> > loud. >> > >> I don't think it will be so I am good with light and simple dividers. >> > >> >> > >> On Nov 1, 2012 10:25 PM, "Roswyne" >> > >> <rosw...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=rosw...@gmail.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Personally, I'm willing to learn how to use my indoor voice. >> > >>> >> > >>> I don't want to build walls. No one wants to do renovations - that's a >> > >>> large part of the point of moving into a finished space. >> > >>> >> > >>> Any dividers we put up should be temporary and easy to move for at >> > least >> > >>> for a few months, so that we can find out by using the space how it >> > actually >> > >>> gets used. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Colin Stanners >> > >>> <cstann...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=cstann...@gmail.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> > First of all, we need to make sure we can build some sort of walls >> > >>> > (not silly sheets/small partitions) so we know this is usable for >> > more >> > >>> > than one group of people. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On 11/1/12, Justin Lacko >> > >>> > <jus...@takaji.ca<http://mc/compose?to=jus...@takaji.ca>> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> Hey all, >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Here's the standard lease we'd be looking at for the space on >> > Donald. >> > >>> >> If you have questions about anything on it, please ask before >> > >>> >> assuming! >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> There's a note about "no cooking." I asked about this - more refers >> > to >> > >>> >> stoves and such. We can use a skillet/hotplate/Wok/etc. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> "Floor tax" - I asked them about this and they said they don't >> > collect >> > >>> >> anything for it. It's nothing we're expected to pay. >> > >>> >> "Business tax" - related to whatever taxes may be levied on us when >> > we >> > >>> >> file our income tax (this isn't changing with going to a new space). >> > >>> >> Not collected by the landlord. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> The lease is signed by SkullSpace and does not require personal >> > >>> >> guarantees from anybody. >> > >>> >> Up front, the landlord would require the first and last months' >> > rent. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> There's advertising space we can use to properly advertise where we >> > >>> >> are. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> And I think if we get this place I'm gonna look into seeing what it >> > >>> >> takes to get a white neon SkullSpace sign for one of the windows. >> > >>> >> Could be cool. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAlCT4ZYACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/T90ACgoJzds1pQxF1BqtilTY98imv2 > tjEAoIE6cPrCQMg25WOB2aE9pL/I1ku0 > =6Nz3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
