-An outlet in the wiring area above the bathrooms - easy to do, and better
than the current runs down to one of the bathroom's outlets.
-3D printer: may be able to spare one of the server UPSes now that I can
move servers to the big one donated by Nate.



On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian, can you confirm what (in broad outline) this quote covers?  I know
> that you've been negotiating with the landlord about some of this, and that
> they had agreed to handle some of it... but I think we had the following on
> our electrical wishlist:
>
>    - kitchen outlet over the sink - move and install gfi outlet
>    - outlets on the north (?) wall (behind the projector screen) to be
>    reconnected to power
>    - outlets to be installed on one (or both?) pillars between the lounge
>    and workshop
>    - dedicated circuit for the drink machine (due to very high draw when
>    compressor kicks in)
>
> Also, we probably now want a dedicated circuit for the 3D printer: since
> print jobs can last hours afaik, it would be unfortunate to have it blow a
> breaker midjob.
>
>
>
>
> Courtney, I'm hoping to combine all outstanding issues, including the
> security system (software & door) into a mega-project to essentially bring
> the space up to code.  If you or anyone else is aware of any other issues,
> please let me know and that's how I'll draft the proposal for the bingo or
> anything else I can find that we might qualify for.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Electrical work required for space:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> $2184.00****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ian****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Courtney Lofchick
>> *Sent:* March-31-13 6:23 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update:
>> network, security, oh my!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> They will only give us enough money to complete a project and the money
>> cannot be used for operating expenses.****
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2013 6:20 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote:***
>> *
>>
>> Thank you for volunteering for it... I can probably come help man it.
>> I think one of the biggest delays is that we didn't have a list of
>> item for which we needed money - with the electrical plans,
>> we now do (and even if electrical does happen for cheaper we can
>> likely apply it to rent!)
>>
>> I never go the the casinos/bingo, this will be interesting.
>>
>> On 3/31/13, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > http://www.mbcsc.ca/home
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Excellent.
>> >>
>> >> Courtney and Ian, can you please forward the information to me on how
>> to
>> >> apply for a bingo fundraiser, and the official quotes for the work we
>> >> need
>> >> done?
>> >>
>> >> Who else wants to help run the bingo? I think we need a dozen people,
>> but
>> >> will keep you posted.
>> >>
>> >> How are the badge sales going? Are they being sold at cost, or is some
>> >> profit being made towards SkSp expenses?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you to Brittany for taking over the food and drink sales. I know
>> >> that's been a solid, reliable fundraiser.
>> >> On Mar 31, 2013 11:25 AM, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm going to respond in-line to your questions:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 03/31/13 08:42, Roswyne wrote:
>> >>> > And I read the minutes of all meetings I don't attend, and I still
>> >>> > don't
>> >>> > know what's happening in this issue, so I assumed no one cares
>> enough
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > act.
>> >>> Do you care enough to act? Or just to send emails to discuss@?
>> Because
>> >>> that doesn't help us very much.
>> >>>
>> >>> > No, we aren't currently sustainable with existing membership levels.
>> >>> > We
>> >>> are
>> >>> > fortunate to have enough of a buffer that will hopefully last until
>> we
>> >>> > recruit more members. Are we actively recruiting?
>> >>> Are you? Members like Brittany and Jim have investigated getting
>> tables
>> >>> at RRC and U of W to hand out pamphlets to helpless students passing
>> by.
>> >>>
>> >>> Other members have planned and organized talks and special-purpose
>> >>> hackathons to attract people.
>> >>>
>> >>> We've even ordered a 3D printer with the knowledge that (as a side
>> >>> benefit) it may attract new members.
>> >>>
>> >>> > But that doesn't mean we should wait until membership increases to
>> >>> > start
>> >>> > planning or fundraising. Fundraising takes a lot of time and effort
>> >>> > and
>> >>> can
>> >>> > never be started too soon.
>> >>> So what's stopping you from starting fundraising?
>> >>>
>> >>> > One of the most attractive plans for fundraising was to help work a
>> >>> bingo
>> >>> > at the casino. If I remember correctly, we'll need a dozen
>> volunteers
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > work a single evening shift. But we have to apply, indicating what
>> the
>> >>> > money will
>> >>> > be used for. Has anyone done this yet? If not, is there something
>> >>> > outstanding still required?
>> >>> Prepare a application letter with that information, and bring it to
>> the
>> >>> next meeting, or send it to discuss@.
>> >>>
>> >>> The "something outstanding" is for somebody to actually *do it*.
>> That's
>> >>> got your name written all over it.
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If there is no team working on fundraising of any sort (it doesn't
>> >>> > have
>> >>> to
>> >>> > be a bingo), and it's just on the back burner for the directors to
>> >>> > deal
>> >>> > with someday, it's simply not gonna happen.  Someone has to give
>> >>> > enough
>> >>> of
>> >>> > a fuck to go beyond talking.
>> >>> You're absolutely right. We need members with passion and drive (read:
>> >>> *you*) to step up and spearhead.
>> >>>
>> >>> TL;DR: Step up or shut up.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> -Alex
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Mar 30, 2013 7:37 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> On 2013-03-30 18:42, Roswyne wrote:
>> >>> >>> But my point was we're not taking any action towards fundraising
>> to
>> >>> pay
>> >>> >> for
>> >>> >>> them. We've been at SkSp2 almost half a year now.  How long-range
>> >>> >>> are
>> >>> >> these
>> >>> >>> plans?  Do we even have a strike force set up?
>> >>> >> We discuss our plans at meetings, and, if nobody else is, the
>> admin@
>> >>> >> team take it seriously and we've been slowly working toward it. Why
>> >>> >> do
>> >>> >> you think we are constantly talking about electrical work?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> We need 9 more members before we start breaking even. At that
>> point,
>> >>> >> we
>> >>> >> can start spending money on more important things. As we've -
>> >>> particular
>> >>> >> Ian - said many times in the past, once we're financially
>> >>> >> sustainable,
>> >>> >> bringing our electrical up to par is going to be the first thing on
>> >>> >> our
>> >>> >> list.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "There are others who don't do it" is a terrible reason. First of
>> >>> >> all,
>> >>> >> it's being discussed on a public mailing list. Second, we aren't
>> in a
>> >>> >> position where we could fight any sort of legal action if it's
>> >>> >> brought
>> >>> >> against us. And finally, it's just the Right Thing To Do. We have
>> to
>> >>> >> do
>> >>> >> our best to be good, responsible citizens.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ron
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