It depends on where the 3-D printer is going to be located, but you could add 
500 for a dedicated circuit for 3-D printer and that should cover pretty much 
every location we could think of.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: April-01-13 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update: network, 
security, oh my!

If we're going for a grant, let's make sure we include *everything* (including 
the stuff the landlord said he'd cover and all the "nice to haves"), because 
why not?

Ron

On 2013-04-01 09:49, Roswyne wrote:
> Ian, can you confirm what (in broad outline) this quote covers?  I 
> know that you've been negotiating with the landlord about some of 
> this, and that they had agreed to handle some of it... but I think we 
> had the following on our electrical wishlist:
> 
>    - kitchen outlet over the sink - move and install gfi outlet
>    - outlets on the north (?) wall (behind the projector screen) to be
>    reconnected to power
>    - outlets to be installed on one (or both?) pillars between the lounge
>    and workshop
>    - dedicated circuit for the drink machine (due to very high draw when
>    compressor kicks in)
> 
> Also, we probably now want a dedicated circuit for the 3D printer: 
> since print jobs can last hours afaik, it would be unfortunate to have 
> it blow a breaker midjob.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Courtney, I'm hoping to combine all outstanding issues, including the 
> security system (software & door) into a mega-project to essentially 
> bring the space up to code.  If you or anyone else is aware of any 
> other issues, please let me know and that's how I'll draft the 
> proposal for the bingo or anything else I can find that we might qualify for.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >  Electrical work required for space:****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > $2184.00****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Ian****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Courtney 
> > Lofchick
> > *Sent:* March-31-13 6:23 PM
> >
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update:
> > network, security, oh my!****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > They will only give us enough money to complete a project and the 
> > money cannot be used for operating expenses.****
> >
> > On Mar 31, 2013 6:20 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:****
> >
> > Thank you for volunteering for it... I can probably come help man it.
> > I think one of the biggest delays is that we didn't have a list of 
> > item for which we needed money - with the electrical plans, we now 
> > do (and even if electrical does happen for cheaper we can likely 
> > apply it to rent!)
> >
> > I never go the the casinos/bingo, this will be interesting.
> >
> > On 3/31/13, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > http://www.mbcsc.ca/home
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Excellent.
> > >>
> > >> Courtney and Ian, can you please forward the information to me on 
> > >> how to apply for a bingo fundraiser, and the official quotes for 
> > >> the work we need done?
> > >>
> > >> Who else wants to help run the bingo? I think we need a dozen 
> > >> people,
> > but
> > >> will keep you posted.
> > >>
> > >> How are the badge sales going? Are they being sold at cost, or is 
> > >> some profit being made towards SkSp expenses?
> > >>
> > >> Thank you to Brittany for taking over the food and drink sales. I 
> > >> know that's been a solid, reliable fundraiser.
> > >> On Mar 31, 2013 11:25 AM, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm going to respond in-line to your questions:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 03/31/13 08:42, Roswyne wrote:
> > >>> > And I read the minutes of all meetings I don't attend, and I 
> > >>> > still don't know what's happening in this issue, so I assumed 
> > >>> > no one cares enough to act.
> > >>> Do you care enough to act? Or just to send emails to discuss@? 
> > >>> Because that doesn't help us very much.
> > >>>
> > >>> > No, we aren't currently sustainable with existing membership levels.
> > >>> > We
> > >>> are
> > >>> > fortunate to have enough of a buffer that will hopefully last 
> > >>> > until
> > we
> > >>> > recruit more members. Are we actively recruiting?
> > >>> Are you? Members like Brittany and Jim have investigated getting 
> > >>> tables at RRC and U of W to hand out pamphlets to helpless 
> > >>> students passing
> > by.
> > >>>
> > >>> Other members have planned and organized talks and 
> > >>> special-purpose hackathons to attract people.
> > >>>
> > >>> We've even ordered a 3D printer with the knowledge that (as a 
> > >>> side
> > >>> benefit) it may attract new members.
> > >>>
> > >>> > But that doesn't mean we should wait until membership 
> > >>> > increases to start planning or fundraising. Fundraising takes 
> > >>> > a lot of time and effort and
> > >>> can
> > >>> > never be started too soon.
> > >>> So what's stopping you from starting fundraising?
> > >>>
> > >>> > One of the most attractive plans for fundraising was to help 
> > >>> > work a
> > >>> bingo
> > >>> > at the casino. If I remember correctly, we'll need a dozen 
> > >>> > volunteers to work a single evening shift. But we have to 
> > >>> > apply, indicating what
> > the
> > >>> > money will
> > >>> > be used for. Has anyone done this yet? If not, is there 
> > >>> > something outstanding still required?
> > >>> Prepare a application letter with that information, and bring it 
> > >>> to the next meeting, or send it to discuss@.
> > >>>
> > >>> The "something outstanding" is for somebody to actually *do it*. 
> > >>> That's got your name written all over it.
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If there is no team working on fundraising of any sort (it 
> > >>> > doesn't have
> > >>> to
> > >>> > be a bingo), and it's just on the back burner for the 
> > >>> > directors to deal with someday, it's simply not gonna happen.  
> > >>> > Someone has to give enough
> > >>> of
> > >>> > a fuck to go beyond talking.
> > >>> You're absolutely right. We need members with passion and drive (read:
> > >>> *you*) to step up and spearhead.
> > >>>
> > >>> TL;DR: Step up or shut up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> -Alex
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Mar 30, 2013 7:37 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> On 2013-03-30 18:42, Roswyne wrote:
> > >>> >>> But my point was we're not taking any action towards 
> > >>> >>> fundraising to
> > >>> pay
> > >>> >> for
> > >>> >>> them. We've been at SkSp2 almost half a year now.  How 
> > >>> >>> long-range are
> > >>> >> these
> > >>> >>> plans?  Do we even have a strike force set up?
> > >>> >> We discuss our plans at meetings, and, if nobody else is, the 
> > >>> >> admin@ team take it seriously and we've been slowly working 
> > >>> >> toward it. Why do you think we are constantly talking about 
> > >>> >> electrical work?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> We need 9 more members before we start breaking even. At that 
> > >>> >> point, we can start spending money on more important things. 
> > >>> >> As we've -
> > >>> particular
> > >>> >> Ian - said many times in the past, once we're financially 
> > >>> >> sustainable, bringing our electrical up to par is going to be 
> > >>> >> the first thing on our list.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> "There are others who don't do it" is a terrible reason. 
> > >>> >> First of all, it's being discussed on a public mailing list. 
> > >>> >> Second, we aren't in
> > a
> > >>> >> position where we could fight any sort of legal action if 
> > >>> >> it's brought against us. And finally, it's just the Right 
> > >>> >> Thing To Do. We have to do our best to be good, responsible 
> > >>> >> citizens.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Ron
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