If we're going for a grant, let's make sure we include *everything* (including the stuff the landlord said he'd cover and all the "nice to haves"), because why not?
Ron On 2013-04-01 09:49, Roswyne wrote: > Ian, can you confirm what (in broad outline) this quote covers? I know > that you've been negotiating with the landlord about some of this, and that > they had agreed to handle some of it... but I think we had the following on > our electrical wishlist: > > - kitchen outlet over the sink - move and install gfi outlet > - outlets on the north (?) wall (behind the projector screen) to be > reconnected to power > - outlets to be installed on one (or both?) pillars between the lounge > and workshop > - dedicated circuit for the drink machine (due to very high draw when > compressor kicks in) > > Also, we probably now want a dedicated circuit for the 3D printer: since > print jobs can last hours afaik, it would be unfortunate to have it blow a > breaker midjob. > > > > > Courtney, I'm hoping to combine all outstanding issues, including the > security system (software & door) into a mega-project to essentially bring > the space up to code. If you or anyone else is aware of any other issues, > please let me know and that's how I'll draft the proposal for the bingo or > anything else I can find that we might qualify for. > > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Electrical work required for space:**** > > > > ** ** > > > > $2184.00**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Ian**** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Courtney Lofchick > > *Sent:* March-31-13 6:23 PM > > > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update: > > network, security, oh my!**** > > > > ** ** > > > > They will only give us enough money to complete a project and the money > > cannot be used for operating expenses.**** > > > > On Mar 31, 2013 6:20 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > > > Thank you for volunteering for it... I can probably come help man it. > > I think one of the biggest delays is that we didn't have a list of > > item for which we needed money - with the electrical plans, > > we now do (and even if electrical does happen for cheaper we can > > likely apply it to rent!) > > > > I never go the the casinos/bingo, this will be interesting. > > > > On 3/31/13, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://www.mbcsc.ca/home > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Excellent. > > >> > > >> Courtney and Ian, can you please forward the information to me on how to > > >> apply for a bingo fundraiser, and the official quotes for the work we > > >> need > > >> done? > > >> > > >> Who else wants to help run the bingo? I think we need a dozen people, > > but > > >> will keep you posted. > > >> > > >> How are the badge sales going? Are they being sold at cost, or is some > > >> profit being made towards SkSp expenses? > > >> > > >> Thank you to Brittany for taking over the food and drink sales. I know > > >> that's been a solid, reliable fundraiser. > > >> On Mar 31, 2013 11:25 AM, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I'm going to respond in-line to your questions: > > >>> > > >>> On 03/31/13 08:42, Roswyne wrote: > > >>> > And I read the minutes of all meetings I don't attend, and I still > > >>> > don't > > >>> > know what's happening in this issue, so I assumed no one cares enough > > >>> > to > > >>> > act. > > >>> Do you care enough to act? Or just to send emails to discuss@? Because > > >>> that doesn't help us very much. > > >>> > > >>> > No, we aren't currently sustainable with existing membership levels. > > >>> > We > > >>> are > > >>> > fortunate to have enough of a buffer that will hopefully last until > > we > > >>> > recruit more members. Are we actively recruiting? > > >>> Are you? Members like Brittany and Jim have investigated getting tables > > >>> at RRC and U of W to hand out pamphlets to helpless students passing > > by. > > >>> > > >>> Other members have planned and organized talks and special-purpose > > >>> hackathons to attract people. > > >>> > > >>> We've even ordered a 3D printer with the knowledge that (as a side > > >>> benefit) it may attract new members. > > >>> > > >>> > But that doesn't mean we should wait until membership increases to > > >>> > start > > >>> > planning or fundraising. Fundraising takes a lot of time and effort > > >>> > and > > >>> can > > >>> > never be started too soon. > > >>> So what's stopping you from starting fundraising? > > >>> > > >>> > One of the most attractive plans for fundraising was to help work a > > >>> bingo > > >>> > at the casino. If I remember correctly, we'll need a dozen volunteers > > >>> > to > > >>> > work a single evening shift. But we have to apply, indicating what > > the > > >>> > money will > > >>> > be used for. Has anyone done this yet? If not, is there something > > >>> > outstanding still required? > > >>> Prepare a application letter with that information, and bring it to the > > >>> next meeting, or send it to discuss@. > > >>> > > >>> The "something outstanding" is for somebody to actually *do it*. That's > > >>> got your name written all over it. > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > If there is no team working on fundraising of any sort (it doesn't > > >>> > have > > >>> to > > >>> > be a bingo), and it's just on the back burner for the directors to > > >>> > deal > > >>> > with someday, it's simply not gonna happen. Someone has to give > > >>> > enough > > >>> of > > >>> > a fuck to go beyond talking. > > >>> You're absolutely right. We need members with passion and drive (read: > > >>> *you*) to step up and spearhead. > > >>> > > >>> TL;DR: Step up or shut up. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> > > >>> -Alex > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > On Mar 30, 2013 7:37 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> >> On 2013-03-30 18:42, Roswyne wrote: > > >>> >>> But my point was we're not taking any action towards fundraising to > > >>> pay > > >>> >> for > > >>> >>> them. We've been at SkSp2 almost half a year now. How long-range > > >>> >>> are > > >>> >> these > > >>> >>> plans? Do we even have a strike force set up? > > >>> >> We discuss our plans at meetings, and, if nobody else is, the admin@ > > >>> >> team take it seriously and we've been slowly working toward it. Why > > >>> >> do > > >>> >> you think we are constantly talking about electrical work? > > >>> >> > > >>> >> We need 9 more members before we start breaking even. At that point, > > >>> >> we > > >>> >> can start spending money on more important things. As we've - > > >>> particular > > >>> >> Ian - said many times in the past, once we're financially > > >>> >> sustainable, > > >>> >> bringing our electrical up to par is going to be the first thing on > > >>> >> our > > >>> >> list. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> "There are others who don't do it" is a terrible reason. First of > > >>> >> all, > > >>> >> it's being discussed on a public mailing list. Second, we aren't in > > a > > >>> >> position where we could fight any sort of legal action if it's > > >>> >> brought > > >>> >> against us. And finally, it's just the Right Thing To Do. We have to > > >>> >> do > > >>> >> our best to be good, responsible citizens. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Ron > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> >> Archive: > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/**** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
