Actually, technically you do require a permit to prepare food which is given away... Google "Althea Guiboche Bannock". She was in the media a few weeks ago... :)
Either way, I'm sure we're not terribly at risk, and I'd be happy to host a nut-mixing bee at the community centre sometime. Note: if anyone else is interested in getting a food handler's permit, let me know, I can get you into the training for free... Nathan T. Wild Ralph Brown Community Centre Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Ron <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:09:32 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Food in the freezer/fridge One-time sales or cooking and sharing food, I don't worry about so much. In fact, AFAIK, giving away food is okay (you don't need a permit for it, if I understand properly). It seems more likely for something to go wrong if we do it continually. Ron On 2013-04-10 16:33, Justin Lacko wrote: > Okay, well I guess by that logic we can rule out bake sales, or Mike making > brownies at the space to sell in our bake sale. > > And I guess by the same logic we should stop selling any pre-packaged food, > such as a wide range of granola bars that clearly say on the box "NOT FOR > INDIVIDUAL RESALE." > > We're not preparing perishable baloney sandwiches to sell to the public > here. > > > On 10 April 2013 16:00, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Full Stop, liability issue. We don't have a commercial kitchen, nor > > someone with a food handling certificate. > > > > Re-packaged food on or off premise which we then re-sell, puts the > > organization at risk. > > > > Pre-packaged food only for re-sale is authorized and meets the > > expectations and spirit of our lease. I am afraid re-package on or off > > premise is too much of a risk. > > > > This was dealt with when we considered allowing the bulk grocery people > > access to our space for re-packaging. > > > > Feel free to bring your own food pre packaged or re-packaged for your > > own consumption. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2013-04-10, at 15:52, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think if we buy a bulk package, and have clean hands when doing the > > re-packaging, and do it on a clean surface, we should be okay. I'll be sure > > to take the necessary food-handling precautions. > > > > > > On 10 April 2013 14:10, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I'm a little more hesitant about bulk stuff for health/contamination > >> reasons. I'd prefer to keep things pre-packaged, if we can... > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> On 2013-04-10 13:34, Justin Lacko wrote: > >> > If someone buys a bulk package of trail mix and small baggies, I will > >> > repackage them and put them in the kitchen with a price on them. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10 April 2013 13:32, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > No, I think we're getting jumbled by talking about food and drinks and > >> > > water all at once. > >> > > > >> > > I have asked my friend if she'll give us her cooler, and both you and > >> Nate > >> > > have offered to get water for it, which is excellent! Perhaps it can > >> be > >> > > cleaned everytime both bottles are empty, but that'll be up to you > >> guys. > >> > > > >> > > What I'm protesting is the idea of buying things in quantity to be > >> > > repacked in single servings... only because no one has offered to do > >> the > >> > > repackaging. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Apr 10, 2013 1:13 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I don't even clean my cooler at home. :P > >> > >> > >> > >> But no, I was responding to Siu. Your comments are useful and > >> > >> appreciated, hers are pointless and argumentative. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2013-04-10 13:09, Justin Lacko wrote: > >> > >> > Not sure if you're talking to me Ron, but I'll respond in kind > >> > >> nonetheless: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The problem we often see is people not taking responsibility > >> around the > >> > >> > space, so when it comes time to take care of/clean/upkeep > >> something, > >> > >> nobody > >> > >> > does it, and then it falls onto someone else. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > So it would be nice for you to say you'll volunteer to help clean > >> the > >> > >> > cooler every once in a while if you want one ;) just saying! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > On 10 April 2013 12:23, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I suspect it's either the water or the type of cup, not the fact > >> that > >> > >> > > they're dirty (I wash mine before and after I use them). > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > I don't see why you're arguing so much about getting one.. if you > >> > >> don't > >> > >> > > want cold water, don't drink it! :P > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Ron > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > On 2013-04-10 12:15, Roswyne wrote: > >> > >> > > > I can buy trail mix / dried fruit / jerky, but who's going to > >> > >> divide it > >> > >> > > > into baggies... and how much will people pay? > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > What if we get a big jar and charge per scoop? > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > p.s. If the cups make the water taste funny, wash them. :) > >> > >> > > > On Apr 10, 2013 11:47 AM, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > You have to wait for the jug to run empty before cleaning the > >> > >> cooler, > >> > >> > > so I > >> > >> > > > > doubt it'll line up with when the cleaners are there. > >> > >> > > > > On 10 Apr 2013 11:32, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> I don't mind tapwater, but it's inconvenient, and either the > >> > >> water or > >> > >> > > > >> our cups always taste funny. :) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> A big stand-up cooler would probably be the easiest way. We > >> can > >> > >> get > >> > >> > > > >> water delivered (I can take care of organizing it). The > >> cleaners > >> > >> can > >> > >> > > > >> probably look after it? > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> Ron > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> On 2013-04-10 11:16, Jeremy Hiebert wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > Am I the only one who doesn't mind tap water? > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > I like the trail mix idea. I would definitely buy that. > >> > >> > > > >> > On 10 Apr 2013 11:07, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > The trail mix baggies is a really good idea, Justin. +1 > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > On 04/10/13 11:00, Justin Lacko wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > > +1 on the no bottled water. Those things contribute > >> way too > >> > >> > > much to > >> > >> > > > >> our > >> > >> > > > >> > > > landfills... seriously, it should be a capital > >> offence to > >> > >> buy > >> > >> > > that > >> > >> > > > >> Fiji > >> > >> > > > >> > > > water brand. WTF FIJI WATER ANYWAYS?? SINCE WHEN WAS > >> FIJI > >> > >> > > > >> CONSIDERED THE > >> > >> > > > >> > > > STANDARD IN WATER?! It almost makes me cry to think > >> all > >> > >> the gas > >> > >> > > > >> burnt, > >> > >> > > > >> > > time > >> > >> > > > >> > > > wasted, and packaging consumed just to ship their > >> water > >> > >> here. > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > That being said, I admit Evian tastes amazing... > >> REALLY > >> > >> amazing > >> > >> > > when > >> > >> > > > >> > > > chilled... although you can get water from nearby > >> > >> Sandilands > >> > >> > > > >> Provincial > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Park (Jackson Springs operates an aquifer out of > >> there) for > >> > >> > > about > >> > >> > > > >> > > > $6.50/jug, and it tastes just as great. Beware the $2 > >> > >> el-cheapo > >> > >> > > > >> water > >> > >> > > > >> > > jugs > >> > >> > > > >> > > > you can buy; most often this is just reverse-osmosis > >> water > >> > >> and > >> > >> > > it > >> > >> > > > >> retains > >> > >> > > > >> > > > that flat and metallic taste - definitely not > >> enjoyable. > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > The Brita water definitely has an odour to it - > >> possibly > >> > >> this > >> > >> > > could > >> > >> > > > >> be > >> > >> > > > >> > > > mitigated by replacing the filter. There's also the > >> > >> possibility > >> > >> > > of > >> > >> > > > >> > > > replacing the jug with a sealed-type pitcher, so as > >> not to > >> > >> > > introduce > >> > >> > > > >> > > > smells/odours from other items in the fridge into the > >> > >> water. > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Keep in mind that buying a water cooler means someone > >> will > >> > >> have > >> > >> > > to > >> > >> > > > >> > > > clean/disinfect it once a month - this is absolutely > >> > >> required, > >> > >> > > esp. > >> > >> > > > >> > > > depending on the type of water you're using in it. > >> Scaling > >> > >> can > >> > >> > > be an > >> > >> > > > >> > > issue > >> > >> > > > >> > > > with mineral-rich water, over a longer period of > >> time. The > >> > >> > > spigots > >> > >> > > > >> should > >> > >> > > > >> > > > be completely removable so as to allow a > >> pipe-cleaner-style > >> > >> > > brush to > >> > >> > > > >> > > clean > >> > >> > > > >> > > > in it. > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Siu: The flavoured water you bought last time was some > >> > >> kind of > >> > >> > > > >> > > > diet-friendly water, flavoured with Aspartame or > >> > >> something, so I > >> > >> > > > >> wouldn't > >> > >> > > > >> > > > really consider that the best choice... there should > >> be > >> > >> > > something > >> > >> > > > >> else > >> > >> > > > >> > > > available out there, and I'm willing to come with you > >> on > >> > >> your > >> > >> > > next > >> > >> > > > >> run to > >> > >> > > > >> > > > find suitable alternatives. Another suggestion: > >> Perhaps > >> > >> there's > >> > >> > > a > >> > >> > > > >> bulk > >> > >> > > > >> > > > trail mix we can buy, and separate it into small > >> baggies, > >> > >> and > >> > >> > > sell > >> > >> > > > >> those? > >> > >> > > > >> > > > That would be a great little snack! > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > On 10 April 2013 10:07, Ron <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> On 2013-04-10 09:47, Roswyne wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> We have a Brita jug in the fridge: will people pay > >> for > >> > >> bottled > >> > >> > > > >> water? > >> > >> > > > >> > > It > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> will probably be more expensive than canned drinks. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Brita water always tastes funny, and it's far more > >> > >> work/less > >> > >> > > > >> accessible. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> I'd definitely buy bottled water, and whenever we > >> stock > >> > >> it, it > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> disappears quickly. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> I'm at a loss on healthier drinks. No one liked the > >> > >> flavored > >> > >> > > > >> spring > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> water I > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> brought in last time enough to buy, and juice has > >> as many > >> > >> > > > >> calories as > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> pop. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> The V8 seemed reasonably popular though, right? > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Juice has a lot of calories, but it also has > >> nutrients > >> > >> and the > >> > >> > > > >> calories > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> come from natural sources, which means the body > >> processes > >> > >> them > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> differently. I occasionally drink juice of various > >> types, > >> > >> but I > >> > >> > > > >> don't > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> drink pop. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> I'm also not sure what healthier food options would > >> be. > >> > >> My > >> > >> > > main > >> > >> > > > >> > > criteria > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> have been single-serving, easy to prepare, and > >> cheap. How > >> > >> > > much are > >> > >> > > > >> > > people > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> willing to pay for a serving of food, and what > >> would you > >> > >> like > >> > >> > > to > >> > >> > > > >> see? > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> That, I have no answer on. We've never really > >> stocked any > >> > >> veg* > >> > >> > > > >> stuff, it > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> would be cool to have some Amy's Burritos or > >> something > >> > >> like > >> > >> > > that. > >> > >> > > > >> Maybe > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> I can pick up a few next time I'm at the store if > >> they > >> > >> don't > >> > >> > > sell > >> > >> > > > >> them > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> at Costco. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Ron > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013 9:06 AM, "Ron" < > >> [email protected]> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> We need bottled water (or even a big water cooler > >> if > >> > >> somebody > >> > >> > > > >> has one > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> they can donate? Maybe I'll pick one up...) > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> It might be worth checking out Mike Loney's dad's > >> > >> store, he > >> > >> > > sells > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> frozen > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> food. But I don't think a lot of it is > >> microwavable.. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> Ron > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> On 2013-04-10 08:31, Alex Weber wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> Hey everybody, > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> Siu is looking at making a run to Costco for food > >> and > >> > >> > > drinks and > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> would > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> like to know what food we need. > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> I know we had some problems with the fridge and > >> > >> freezer - is > >> > >> > > > >> the food > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> there unsafe to consume now? > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> If so, this gives us a 'cool' (get it?) > >> opportunity to > >> > >> > > change > >> > >> > > > >> up the > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> food we stock - does anybody have a frozen food > >> they > >> > >> enjoy > >> > >> > > > >> that's not 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