Ah @ requiring a permit - in Calgary (the only place where I have experience) you don't.
In any case, to the issue at hand - it's really *not* that big of a deal. I didn't really mean to make such a big deal of it. It's relatively low-risk, but at the same time it seems like a lot of effort without a lot of pay off. A lot of effort, a little bit of risk, and fairly small pay off - I'm not sure it's really worthwhile to do. If you want to, go ahead. Just be careful, take precautions, etc. In general, though, whenever possible we should be working towards ensuring we do things 'right', whenever possible. Even if we can't now, because of financial reasons, as we grow and develop, we should try to do things the proper way. Ron On 2013-04-10 22:46, Nathan T. Wild wrote: > Actually, technically you do require a permit to prepare food which is given > away... Google "Althea Guiboche Bannock". She was in the media a few weeks > ago... :) > > Either way, I'm sure we're not terribly at risk, and I'd be happy to host a > nut-mixing bee at the community centre sometime. > > Note: if anyone else is interested in getting a food handler's permit, let me > know, I can get you into the training for free... > > > Nathan T. Wild > Ralph Brown Community Centre Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected]: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:09:32 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Food in the freezer/fridge > > One-time sales or cooking and sharing food, I don't worry about so much. > In fact, AFAIK, giving away food is okay (you don't need a permit for > it, if I understand properly). > > It seems more likely for something to go wrong if we do it continually. > > Ron > > On 2013-04-10 16:33, Justin Lacko wrote: > > Okay, well I guess by that logic we can rule out bake sales, or Mike making > > brownies at the space to sell in our bake sale. > > > > And I guess by the same logic we should stop selling any pre-packaged food, > > such as a wide range of granola bars that clearly say on the box "NOT FOR > > INDIVIDUAL RESALE." > > > > We're not preparing perishable baloney sandwiches to sell to the public > > here. > > > > > > On 10 April 2013 16:00, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Full Stop, liability issue. We don't have a commercial kitchen, nor > > > someone with a food handling certificate. > > > > > > Re-packaged food on or off premise which we then re-sell, puts the > > > organization at risk. > > > > > > Pre-packaged food only for re-sale is authorized and meets the > > > expectations and spirit of our lease. I am afraid re-package on or off > > > premise is too much of a risk. > > > > > > This was dealt with when we considered allowing the bulk grocery people > > > access to our space for re-packaging. > > > > > > Feel free to bring your own food pre packaged or re-packaged for your > > > own consumption. > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On 2013-04-10, at 15:52, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I think if we buy a bulk package, and have clean hands when doing the > > > re-packaging, and do it on a clean surface, we should be okay. I'll be > > > sure > > > to take the necessary food-handling precautions. > > > > > > > > > On 10 April 2013 14:10, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm a little more hesitant about bulk stuff for health/contamination > > >> reasons. I'd prefer to keep things pre-packaged, if we can... > > >> > > >> Ron > > >> > > >> On 2013-04-10 13:34, Justin Lacko wrote: > > >> > If someone buys a bulk package of trail mix and small baggies, I will > > >> > repackage them and put them in the kitchen with a price on them. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On 10 April 2013 13:32, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > No, I think we're getting jumbled by talking about food and drinks > > >> > > and > > >> > > water all at once. > > >> > > > > >> > > I have asked my friend if she'll give us her cooler, and both you and > > >> Nate > > >> > > have offered to get water for it, which is excellent! Perhaps it can > > >> be > > >> > > cleaned everytime both bottles are empty, but that'll be up to you > > >> guys. > > >> > > > > >> > > What I'm protesting is the idea of buying things in quantity to be > > >> > > repacked in single servings... only because no one has offered to do > > >> the > > >> > > repackaging. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Apr 10, 2013 1:13 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> I don't even clean my cooler at home. :P > > >> > >> > > >> > >> But no, I was responding to Siu. Your comments are useful and > > >> > >> appreciated, hers are pointless and argumentative. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Ron > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On 2013-04-10 13:09, Justin Lacko wrote: > > >> > >> > Not sure if you're talking to me Ron, but I'll respond in kind > > >> > >> nonetheless: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > The problem we often see is people not taking responsibility > > >> around the > > >> > >> > space, so when it comes time to take care of/clean/upkeep > > >> something, > > >> > >> nobody > > >> > >> > does it, and then it falls onto someone else. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > So it would be nice for you to say you'll volunteer to help clean > > >> the > > >> > >> > cooler every once in a while if you want one ;) just saying! > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > On 10 April 2013 12:23, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > I suspect it's either the water or the type of cup, not the fact > > >> that > > >> > >> > > they're dirty (I wash mine before and after I use them). > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > I don't see why you're arguing so much about getting one.. if > > >> > >> > > you > > >> > >> don't > > >> > >> > > want cold water, don't drink it! :P > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > Ron > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > On 2013-04-10 12:15, Roswyne wrote: > > >> > >> > > > I can buy trail mix / dried fruit / jerky, but who's going to > > >> > >> divide it > > >> > >> > > > into baggies... and how much will people pay? > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > What if we get a big jar and charge per scoop? > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > p.s. If the cups make the water taste funny, wash them. :) > > >> > >> > > > On Apr 10, 2013 11:47 AM, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > You have to wait for the jug to run empty before cleaning > > >> > >> > > > > the > > >> > >> cooler, > > >> > >> > > so I > > >> > >> > > > > doubt it'll line up with when the cleaners are there. > > >> > >> > > > > On 10 Apr 2013 11:32, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> I don't mind tapwater, but it's inconvenient, and either > > >> > >> > > > >> the > > >> > >> water or > > >> > >> > > > >> our cups always taste funny. :) > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> A big stand-up cooler would probably be the easiest way. We > > >> can > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> > > > >> water delivered (I can take care of organizing it). The > > >> cleaners > > >> > >> can > > >> > >> > > > >> probably look after it? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> Ron > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> On 2013-04-10 11:16, Jeremy Hiebert wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > Am I the only one who doesn't mind tap water? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I like the trail mix idea. I would definitely buy that. > > >> > >> > > > >> > On 10 Apr 2013 11:07, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > The trail mix baggies is a really good idea, Justin. +1 > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > On 04/10/13 11:00, Justin Lacko wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > +1 on the no bottled water. Those things contribute > > >> way too > > >> > >> > > much to > > >> > >> > > > >> our > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > landfills... seriously, it should be a capital > > >> offence to > > >> > >> buy > > >> > >> > > that > > >> > >> > > > >> Fiji > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > water brand. WTF FIJI WATER ANYWAYS?? SINCE WHEN WAS > > >> FIJI > > >> > >> > > > >> CONSIDERED THE > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > STANDARD IN WATER?! It almost makes me cry to think > > >> all > > >> > >> the gas > > >> > >> > > > >> burnt, > > >> > >> > > > >> > > time > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > wasted, and packaging consumed just to ship their > > >> water > > >> > >> here. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > That being said, I admit Evian tastes amazing... > > >> REALLY > > >> > >> amazing > > >> > >> > > when > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > chilled... although you can get water from nearby > > >> > >> Sandilands > > >> > >> > > > >> Provincial > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Park (Jackson Springs operates an aquifer out of > > >> there) for > > >> > >> > > about > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > $6.50/jug, and it tastes just as great. Beware the $2 > > >> > >> el-cheapo > > >> > >> > > > >> water > > >> > >> > > > >> > > jugs > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > you can buy; most often this is just reverse-osmosis > > >> water > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> > > it > > >> > >> > > > >> retains > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > that flat and metallic taste - definitely not > > >> enjoyable. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > The Brita water definitely has an odour to it - > > >> possibly > > >> > >> this > > >> > >> > > could > > >> > >> > > > >> be > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > mitigated by replacing the filter. There's also the > > >> > >> possibility > > >> > >> > > of > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > replacing the jug with a sealed-type pitcher, so as > > >> not to > > >> > >> > > introduce > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > smells/odours from other items in the fridge into the > > >> > >> water. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Keep in mind that buying a water cooler means someone > > >> will > > >> > >> have > > >> > >> > > to > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > clean/disinfect it once a month - this is absolutely > > >> > >> required, > > >> > >> > > esp. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > depending on the type of water you're using in it. > > >> Scaling > > >> > >> can > > >> > >> > > be an > > >> > >> > > > >> > > issue > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > with mineral-rich water, over a longer period of > > >> time. The > > >> > >> > > spigots > > >> > >> > > > >> should > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > be completely removable so as to allow a > > >> pipe-cleaner-style > > >> > >> > > brush to > > >> > >> > > > >> > > clean > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > in it. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > Siu: The flavoured water you bought last time was > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > some > > >> > >> kind of > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > diet-friendly water, flavoured with Aspartame or > > >> > >> something, so I > > >> > >> > > > >> wouldn't > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > really consider that the best choice... there should > > >> be > > >> > >> > > something > > >> > >> > > > >> else > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > available out there, and I'm willing to come with you > > >> on > > >> > >> your > > >> > >> > > next > > >> > >> > > > >> run to > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > find suitable alternatives. Another suggestion: > > >> Perhaps > > >> > >> there's > > >> > >> > > a > > >> > >> > > > >> bulk > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > trail mix we can buy, and separate it into small > > >> baggies, > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> > > sell > > >> > >> > > > >> those? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > That would be a great little snack! > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > On 10 April 2013 10:07, Ron <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> On 2013-04-10 09:47, Roswyne wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> We have a Brita jug in the fridge: will people pay > > >> for > > >> > >> bottled > > >> > >> > > > >> water? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > It > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> will probably be more expensive than canned drinks. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Brita water always tastes funny, and it's far more > > >> > >> work/less > > >> > >> > > > >> accessible. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> I'd definitely buy bottled water, and whenever we > > >> stock > > >> > >> it, it > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> disappears quickly. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> I'm at a loss on healthier drinks. No one liked the > > >> > >> flavored > > >> > >> > > > >> spring > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> water I > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> brought in last time enough to buy, and juice has > > >> as many > > >> > >> > > > >> calories as > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> pop. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> The V8 seemed reasonably popular though, right? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Juice has a lot of calories, but it also has > > >> nutrients > > >> > >> and the > > >> > >> > > > >> calories > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> come from natural sources, which means the body > > >> processes > > >> > >> them > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> differently. I occasionally drink juice of various > > >> types, > > >> > >> but I > > >> > >> > > > >> don't > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> drink pop. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> I'm also not sure what healthier food options would > > >> be. > > >> > >> My > > >> > >> > > main > > >> > >> > > > >> > > criteria > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> have been single-serving, easy to prepare, and > > >> cheap. How > > >> > >> > > much are > > >> > >> > > > >> > > people > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> willing to pay for a serving of food, and what > > >> would you > > >> > >> like > > >> > >> > > to > > >> > >> > > > >> see? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> That, I have no answer on. We've never really > > >> stocked any > > >> > >> veg* > > >> > >> > > > >> stuff, it > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> would be cool to have some Amy's Burritos or > > >> something > > >> > >> like > > >> > >> > > that. > > >> > >> > > > >> Maybe > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> I can pick up a few next time I'm at the store if > > >> they > > >> > >> don't > > >> > >> > > sell > > >> > >> > > > >> them > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> at Costco. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> Ron > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013 9:06 AM, "Ron" < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> We need bottled water (or even a big water cooler > > >> if > > >> > >> somebody > > >> > >> > > > >> has one > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> they can donate? Maybe I'll pick one up...) > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> It might be worth checking out Mike Loney's dad's > > >> > >> store, he > > >> > >> > > sells > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> frozen > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> food. But I don't think a lot of it is > > >> microwavable.. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> Ron > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>> On 2013-04-10 08:31, Alex Weber wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> Hey everybody, > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> Siu is looking at making a run to Costco for food > > >> and > > >> > >> > > drinks and > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> would > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> like to know what food we need. > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> I know we had some problems with the fridge and > > >> > >> freezer - is > > >> > >> > > > >> the food > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> there unsafe to consume now? > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> If so, this gives us a 'cool' (get it?) > > >> opportunity to > > >> > >> > > change > > >> > >> > > > >> up the > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >>>>> food we stock - does anybody have a frozen food > > >> 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