Phillip Kerman Wrote: 
> Pretty funny writing Jeff52.  Pretty accurate too.  There are a few
> things
> that I still don't get.  Are there not CDROM drives that can simply
> make an
> exact copy of any CD?  (Not re-encode it etc. but just make a dupe.)  I
> do
> tend to believe that simply holding down shift will defeat my ability
> to
> make a CD Copy.  What am I missing if I'm wrong?
> 
> Regarding DRM... I too totally don't blame the labels. But, I also
> don't see
> how my "fair use" gets in their way after I forked over the price they
> felt
> was fair.  And, I'd be fine if there was some sort of DRM pre-installed
> on
> Windows or whatever that actually WORKED.... but I fear any attempt
> will be
> frought with issues... with slim to name the one I care about.
> 
> I don't think the end of music as we know it is necessarily here;
> around the
> corner; or so far gone that we can't change its course.   There's all
> these
> new formats of audio CD that aren't going to make it.
> 
> Anyway, I'm almost tempted to try to get into the DRM business to knock
> some
> sense into folks but I don't know if I'm capable or care that much.

Hey Phillip,

Thanks for the compliment I was trying to be funny in order to
illustrate my point. Several of the sites I have recently viewed have
reported using older vintage CD-ROM only drives to accomplish just what
you mentioned with the new schemes. The new schemes go beyond the "shift
key" stuff and many have reported an ability to rip using a particular
hardware/software combination, but even then many have reported a
substantial number of errors on the copy or at least several tracks.
These discs are no longer redbook compliant and it appears to me (no
expert by any means)they are designed to be error correctable on MOST
CD audio players while introducing errors on MOST computer CD drives.
Who knows what is being done to the audio on the CD since the redbook
standard is being ditched. Freed of redbook standards, the copy
protection companies will be free to continue to develop a myriad of
schemes to cripple the audio and change it from time-to-time. The
labels are only concerned that the CD will play on MOST audio CD
players, and even then, if it doesn't play on all they really don't
care. Denon, Creek and other hardware manufacturers have already posted
information on their websites about not guaranteeing the playability of
new dual discs in their products and specifically state that the discs
are not redbook compliant. How in the heck can you design a product to
play a CD, when the CD is not manufactured according to the specs used
by the hardware manufacturer?  

The labels (and some software companies) idea of "fair use" is DRM.
Ultimately what they want is for us to rip the music with a DRM
compliant ripper which requires a "license" in order to rip and
thereafter play it. I would guess that the vast majority of folks rip
using one of the standard rippers, e.g., Music Match, Real Player,
Windows Media Player, iTunes, etc., rather than EAC, CD-EX, etc. and to
the extent that these programs and the players used to play the music
are DRM protected then I assume the labels would be happy. 

Once again, what a mess.


-- 
Jeff52
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