mherger;329779 Wrote: 
> I think it's great that you all speak up about the confusion
Yes, isn't it.
mherger;329779 Wrote: 
> But we'd need a clear idea on how the design should be before we can
> change it's current behaviour.
This thread has a few purposes, one of which is to open a discussion
about how the current Now Playing behaviour could be improved. If you
look at the bug at least two people have already made suggestions.

The other aims are:

1) To exlain what the bug is. In my experience many new users think the
player UI is eccentric but have trouble explaining why. From watching my
friends use my remote it seems to me that *all* the perceived
eccentricity is down the the implementation of Now Playing. I've tried
my best to explain what is happening and how the present situation came
about.
2) To see if others do indeed experience a problem with the Now Playing
area (and that it it not solely me who gets very frustrated with it).

It is a particularly difficult area. My solution appeared simple (so
simple I knew there had to be a problem with it). Dump the Now Playing
screen entirely and map the Now Playing button on the remote to the Now
Playing (Jump back on wake)* screensaver. I now realise that there are
(at least) two problems with this:

1) Not everyone has necessarily chosen the "Now Playing (Jump back on
Wake)" screensaver in Settings>Player>Screensaver. It is only one of
seven options (although personally I fail to see how anyone would want
to pick anything but the "Now Playing (Jump back on Wake)"*
screensaver).
2) Apparently plugins are allowed to "hijack" the keys which can change
the behaviour of the screensaver (or rather, what happens when you use
the left arrow to leave the screen saver).

Both these points were pointed out by seasoned SlimDevices users.

I personally think that because this Now Playing area is so complicated
(esp. if plugins are involved) that the people who need to partake in
the discussion are the people who know and understand the UI very
well... which really means the seasoned users and the developers. A
discussion between these two groups is the one most likely to reach
some sort of useful solution.

Michael. It'd be helpful in your role as a lead developer and as
someone who knows the player UI inside out (designed MusicInfo etc) if
you could give us your thoughts about the current implemention of Now
Playing and any suggestions you might have on how the area could be
made simple, intuitive and logical.

I'd also be interested to know what you feel about these two points:

1) That there should not be two screens that are virtually
indistinguishable in look and name and that have different
functionality applied to them.
2) Selection of a Now Playing screen should not totally divorce a user
from what they were doing previously to selecting said screen

I realise that raising this issue has come at a bad time for the
developers, but the with new developements there has never been a time
where the correct implemention of Now Playing has been more crucial.
All the new functionality that SlimDevices have been working so hard on
(Last.fm, Pandora, Internet radio and services in general etc) are the
items most affected by the current implementation (as I have found out
whilst playing around in the small hours with 7.2 on my bedside
SlimDevice - please read about my experience using Last.fm above).

The one thing I am sure about is that Now Playing should be simple,
intuitive and obvious. No one should have to read a manual to see how
it works. Any solution that does not fit this is plainly wrong.

MC

* The "Now Playing (Jump Back on wake)" screensaver has now been
renamed and in 7.1/7.2 is called simply "Now Playing", and is the
default option.


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