>the fact is the current version has options, as all programs of this
>type do.  musicmatch, winamp, etc...  all have lots of options.
>
>these noobs who slim seems to be worried about melting their computers,
>will STILL HAVE ACCESS to those options POST setup.
>
>so whats the difference?  is it really THAT important to keep them out
>of the options at setup at the cost of not giving the option to anyone
>with a brain in their head?  even a noob can figure out to "stay out"
>if an option is displayed as such.
>
I'm coming into this thread late.  I have to agree with the majority of 
concerns here.

I hate the automatic rescans that SC used to do when installing a new version.  
I can't think of any other decent applications or consumer products that do 
automatic operations - ones that do really piss me off, and thus aren't decent 
;-)

I think there's more chance of annoying new users with automatic stuff and 
making assumptions without providing alternative options.

I remember installing an updated version of SC a few years ago and got the 
wizard for the first time.  Before I knew anything about it, SC had wiped my 
existing library and commenced an unnecessary rescan.

I don't agree with the arguments against at least providing an option to not do 
something that could potentially take a long time and not be correct 
afterwards, requiring the user to look through the options and perform a new 
scan.

There's no such thing as an idiot user who isn't going to understand a "don't 
scan until I say so" option.

A user requires a music source to start with.  i.e. installed some other 
software to rip some CD's.

Last time I remember looking at installation instructions and the wizard, there 
were instructions about logging onto SqueezeNetwork to set up an account.  This 
was presented as a mandatory step, and SC was optional.  I think the opposite 
is true.  A first-time user who just wants to play their CD's via a squeezebox 
has no need for SqueezeNetwork, which I find really cumbersome to set up 
compared to SC.

If you're looking at reducing setup pain, rework SqueezeNetwork.  Allow an 
optional account to be set up through SqueezeCenter, post installation.  Push 
SC settings up to SN, rather than the other way.

As I'm a power user, and now use SVN to keep SC up to date, I never see the 
wizard and thus don't really care for my own situation.

>compounding the issue is that a lot of what SC "intelligently" does is
>neither intelligent nor intuitive.  the auto rescans
I agree with that...

>and VA logic, greatest hits logic, 
Disagree with that.  VA logic, greatest hits, etc are handled really well, 
compared to other applications that don't do anything (eg. iTunes).  The 
default logic makes perfect sense for newbies and seasoned professionals, but 
I'm not against an option to turn off such logic if it doesn't work for them.  
This is not an option that should be in the wizard though.

>these are all things NO other app does.
Other apps do make assumptions, and for users that just rip CD's to new 
folders, the assumtions are very often the right choice.  Other should apps do 
the same thing, or should.

>and the tcp/ip paradigm isn't obvious
Not sure what you are getting at here.  TCP/IP is not something that should be 
explained in the wizard.  Simple instructions for how to configure a SB to 
connect to SC over wireless LAN, but nothing should be required in the SC 
installation instructions.

Phil
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