Wow, for the most part I'm pretty proud of those participating in this thread, in many other boards I visit the discussion would have went afoul much longer ago.
> So, when does George Bush go on trial? Weapons of mass destruction my > ass! I love this argument - If Bush was as corrupt as many of you seem to believe, we *WOULD* have found WMD's, doesn't take a genius to think that one through. Comparing his administration to Nazi Germany is as ignorant as it is insulting for all of us on this side of the pond - regardless of your politics. So the guy got some bad info (maybe) - intelligence is never 100% accurate and all you can do is follow what you feel in your gut & the information you've been provided. It's unfortunate we didn't find any WMD's to shut everyone up, but the gist of it is that WE ARE doing good things in Iraq, Saddam's regime was truly guilty of many crimes against humanity, and most of the "regular" folk there do appreciate us - at least according to the military personnel I've talked to that have been there. It's unfortunate that almost no one else had the "nuts" to go over there with us and remove this dangerous person from a position of power. I just personally hope we can get Iraq's security shored up before we make a knee jerk reaction and pull out prematurely, further destabilizing the region and giving an opportunity to other extremists groups like the Taliban. The other thing I have a problem with is people blaming the current state of the economy on those awful republicans. No offense to anyone in particular but this discussion is so complex and long in the making that assigning blame toward one side or the other is a sure sign you've been brainwashed by your media or have limited capacity to process the scope of the situation. Personally I feel a lot of greed by various groups lead us to this. Firstly, there's only so much $5+/gallon diesel the US economy, as powerful as it is/was can support. I'm well aware many in the world would find this a bargain, but we're a big country with large open spaces and the need to do a LOT of transportation to support our economy and citizens - the whole country practically runs on diesel in one form or fashion. Certainly a large part of the blame for this quagmire falls right in the laps of those responsible - whoever you believe that is. Hopefully the end result of this is a lot more money poured into developing alternative and "cleaner" energy sources, a lot more quickly. Another HUGE part of the problem were the lineant lending practices that allowed a huge rush of unqualified people to purchase property they absolutely could not afford in attempt to "flip" it and make a mint in the process. This phenomenon lead to a huge inflation of real estate prices on both the coasts (and to a lesser extent, the middle of the country) that could absolutely not be sustained for any reasonable period of time. Combine this with skyrocketing energy costs (which affect the cost of *EVERYTHING* else) and you have the "perfect storm" Now - the reality is, as long as energy is available, and we have natural resources (and use them wisely), the prices & economy will correct themselves with time. We've already seen it with oil returning to the $60~70 range - it may not stay there but I bet it will be at least a little while before we see it at $150/barrel again. FWIW - it's going to be an interesting four years for sure. As others in this thread I congratulate Mr Obama on his victory & hope he does a great job for us all as well as heals our relationship with the world (which I believe was unduly tarnished by "the media's" extreme hatred of Bush). Three of my biggest concerns though are his experience - it's one thing to make a good speech, it's quite another to make good decisions. Next, the amount of money he spent to get there - that simply equals a *lot* of favors to a *lot* of people. The other is his current voting record making him one of the most (if not the most) partisan liberals in the Senate. -- 86atc250r ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 86atc250r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54678 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
