Cape11;614876 Wrote: 
> I agree with TerryS on this (noting PL's point about dither). I don't
> think the evidence for the roughness of 16 bit CD sound is a subtle
> audio point. Listen to any recording of a string quartet when they play
> a quiet passage and the roughness of the sound is perfectly obvious. On
> some recordings, where they have recorded at a rather lower level than
> usual, the sound can be quite dreadful. A 'good' example of this is the
> Caliope recordings of the Beethoven Quartets played by the Talisch. The
> LPs sound fine - good, warm string tone; the CDs are so bad that you
> might have difficulty identifying the source as a string quartet. So
> I'm all for 24 bit delivered to the end user.
> 
> I'm also for higher sampling rates. One of the other failings of CD,
> compared to LP, is the poor quality of transients. Without
> over-sampling, CD delivers a frequency response flat to ~22 kHz and
> then a cliff edge. Imagine the filter you'd design to achieve that, and
> then consider the phase/frequency distortion that would occur. I doubt
> over-sampling removes these phase artefacts.

That whole filter thing is indeed history, thanks to oversampling which
moves the filter way out of harms way...unless you think 384kHz and
higher is still an issue?


The other issues you describe are addressed by recording and mastering
things properly (including the use of high sample rate and bit depths).
Get this right and the final playback in 16/44.1 is NOT a problem, as
eloquently explained - and proven - in the Meyer/Moran paper. The
problem is most people seem to judge 16/44.1 PLAYBACK on the basis of
ropey masters. This isn't helped by the fact that the best masters are
often only available in DVD-A/SACD/Hi-res downloads... this makes a
casual apples-to-apples comparison difficult


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