erland;314024 Wrote: > I really don't understand the reason to start this discussion again, but > I guess I've probably missed something. No, I'm not trying to silence > anyone, I just don't understand why you guys keeps spending energy on > something that's already solved instead of doing something useful with > your time.
bug 8324, with your patch, is about to be reviewed. so i revisited the thread. erland;314024 Wrote: > 1. > Bug '#8001' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8001) makes > MP3 files work as FLAC files, with the new option you can instruct > SqueezeCenter to treat TPE2 as ALBUMARTIST. The result is that MP3 > albums with a TPE2 tag will not be treated as compilations and will > thanks to this be sorted under the TPE2 value instead of under "Various > Artists". > The change of 8001 is part of the 7.1 nightly release, so you can try > it already now. right, i've been using it since the day it came out, i reported it worked well in the bug 8001 report. however... b/c of the exchange between Phil and I in the last few posts, we may have discovered a bug with it that also relates to this 8324 issue, in that i can't find my 'TPE2=Various Artists' albums under the 'Home->Artists' list. erland;314024 Wrote: > 2. > The patch provided for bug '#8324' > (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8324) makes it possible to > turn off the automatic logic that makes tracks with multiple TPE1 > artists and to be treated as compilations. If the automatic logic is > turned off, I believe an album will ONLY be treated as a compilation if > it has a COMPILATION or TCMP tag. I believe TCMP(iTunes specific tag) is > treated the same way as a COMPILATION tag. > I also believe that most people really doesn't need this patch, because > the change in bug 8001 will solve everything. i am not sure that 8001 does solve everything. aside from whatever bug i may have found, (that the auto detection might have a hand in causing), i think it does make sense to [optionally] turn off a feature you don't need. (remember infrant users!) something else to consider is a situation where someone does not have TPE2 tags or album artist tags. they may want to turn the VA logic off, avoid the misidentifications, and then decide how to proceed based on what they see. and lets not forget that mp3 is not the only file format affected by VA logic detection. as to how other formats are affected, i can't say, but i've seen people comment about that. and if u look in 8324, i put a link where a user says the VA detection hampers him. erland;314024 Wrote: > 3. > If none of the above doesn't solve the issue you can still override the > compilation status by setting COMPILATION or TCMP tag to 1. TPE2 as album artist does sort things right for me, and i could then add a comp tag if i wanted SC to know its a comp. (although i don't know if setting such a tag would then cause another "re-sort" to VA, since i have no comp tags. i need to experiment on that, but i am hoping & assuming it won't). also, i could just remove TPE2 tags on any TPE1 mismatch albums i want SC to ID as VA/comp albums. but is that really elegant? removing TPE2 tags that say "Various Artists" for example, to let SC do the VA logic on them? SC isn't the only app i use afterall. i think there may be other ramifcations as well, i can't see em all yet though. erland;314024 Wrote: > *MrSinatra*: I would really appreciate if you would try the 7.1 nightly > release unless you have already done so, this way we get to know if it > solves your problems or not. > > The latest 7.1 nightly is found here: > http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.1/ > > For some reason there isn't one available at the moment, so unless the > above link works you can use yesterdays build found here instead: > http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/SqueezeCenter_7.1_trunk_v2008-06-21/ already on it. besides noting it in 8001, its in my signature. :) it did go a LONG way to solving a lot of my issues. now i'm left with a new, more minor bug, and a question of how to best identify comps to SC. yes, explicit comp tags are probably the best way. but i think having SC recognize the string "Various Artists" in the SC ALBUMARTIST field would be a good addition to the logic. (somewhat surprisingly, they already do this for the ARTIST field) erland;314024 Wrote: > As a side note, I really can't understand why it would be acceptable to > set TCMP but unacceptable to set COMPILATION. TCMP is not a standard > tag, it's not even a standard MP3 frame, so in my world this makes it > even less standard than a COMPILATION tag. Unless you consider > everything Apple do as the standard of course. See here (row 6 in > table) for more information: > http://www.id3.org/Compliance_Issues i think you are making assumptions about my feelings on the matter that don't exist. i don't use comp tags at all. i know very little about them. i don't really understand the difference between TCMP and COMPILATION. maybe you can explain it to me? i also don't use itunes, and while my wife has a ac, i really don't do much with it. all i know is my tags are four characters, like TPE1 and TPE2. so i would use TCMP as long as SC was cool with that. maybe not the best reason, but it just felt familiar. nothing more to it then that. (and i have yet to assign TCMP=1 to any albums yet, i have to find an app that will do it that doesn't irritate me to use) -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.1beta - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47297 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
