Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > >well, i dispute it. as i've said many times, *half* of what it > >identified it got wrong. its simply a bad design assumption. > > > Half of what it identified for *you* may have been wrong. But even > then, what do you mean by half? Half of your music collection, or of > all compilation albums, or of all albums with album artists? I guess > you are talking about half of the latter, which is probably less than > 1% of your library.
i don't mean to be rude, (sincerely), but i said exactly what i meant. ie. "HALF of what it [SC] identified [as a comp] it got wrong." the stuff in brackets was clear i thought from the context. in other words, half of what it was calling a comp/VA album was incorrect. Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > > >u say "and the vast majority of albums that have different artists on > >each track are various artist/compilation albums." the first problem > >is SC says its a comp even if its only ONE track, (as opposed to > >"every" track as you put it). > > > What about an album with only two songs, with different artists for > each? in such a case, if there is a mismatch, it WILL call that a VA album. i know this b/c that was the case with one of the 2 albums that was ID'd i mentioned in my previous post. the code andy quotes shows this. one mismatch on one track (out of two or more) is enough to get the classification. Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > > >the second problem is that for some albums, like sinatra duets, it IS > >every track, but its definitely NOT a comp. > > > This is one case where the right thing to do is to add an album artist. > There is no alternative if you want the duet artists to also be tagged > on the tracks. ok. Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > > >my main point is that from a design perspective, this was bound to > have > >problems with some people. now, people may not see it as a big deal, > >(and i'm not saying its a big deal), but what they can't do is deny > >that its far from being 100% reliable and they certainly can't assert > >its necessary. > > > It is 100% reliable - it does everything it intends to do, based on the > content of the tags. and as i said, i agree it does everything its POOR DESIGN intends it to do. and so what? it is NOT RELIABLE in fufilling the objective of the goal of the function it is designed to do. i mean if i want to design a car, and i make a blueprint, and the car is made EXACTLY to the spec of the blueprint, but breaks down every other time i use it, its hardly a successful design, regardless of how accurately it follows my blueprint! how such a function should be ultimately judged, is in how well it accomplishes its goal, (or reason for existing in the first place). thats how i am judging it. (you are judging it based on if its doing what its code tells it to do, as if thats the ultimate goal, and it isn't). yes, thx to bug 8001 i can now totally defeat it by setting TPE2, (something i now know, and thats as you know only very recently). but i shouldn't be forced to set TPE2 to do that, and i shouldn't have to have any and all comps just get generically sorted into one mass area called Various Artists (if i don't set TPE2). i understand that turning it off and not setting album artist is problematic too however. Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > > >but regardless of how my tags got that way, its not that unusual for > >someone to have their tags that way, whether they did it manually or > >not. people put artists and guest artists in TPE1, and then use TPE2 > >for the main album artist. pretty common. > > > Then with the option to consider TPE2 as album artist, the album won't > be considered a compilation, so there won't be a problem? well, yes and no. and i haven't worked out all the ramifications yet, so this concept is till a work in progress... basically, i now MUST use TPE2 to have it sort properly, AND defeat the VA detection logic. we now know (barring Andy saying different) that setting TPE2 will defeat the VA logic. however, there seem to be issues with how my albums are being listed in Home->Artists as a result, and i don't know if setting comp tags will fix all this or not. i'm also not sure what related suppression issues there might be. also what if i want comps in mor ethan just one massive comps area? i can see wanting to put some comps under VA, some under Soundtracks, etc... Philip Meyer;313990 Wrote: > > >what i don't want to have to do though, is FIND and UNDO what > >classifications SC does. if i am going to add comp tags to those > >albums i want to add it to, i want to only have to add the tags as a > >positive ID and have that be a pro-active decision on my part. > > > It is easier to find compilation albums that should not be, rather than > albums that should be compilations. well, now that i know TPE2 will defeat the VA auto logic, this isn't as much of an issue at this point, or i should say that it isn't pending the outcome of other possible ramifications mentioned above. at this point, i have to figure out these ramifications, and also decide if i want to set an explicit comp tag, or just remove TPE2 info from those albums i want SC to auto detect as comps. but i think its easier to ID those albums i want known as comps, rather than figure out which ones it thinks are comps. how do i know for sure none of my albums are called comps by SC just b/c i don't see them listed under Home->Artists->Various Artists? (and why aren't my albums with "Various Artists" in the TPE2 tag listed there? they aren't in the Home->Artists list? ...or at least, i haven't found them yet if they are. i know that it has to do with not being classified comps, but shouldn't i be able to see them somewhere in Home->Artists?) -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.1beta - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47297 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
