>well, i dispute it. as i've said many times, *half* of what it >identified it got wrong. its simply a bad design assumption. > Half of what it identified for *you* may have been wrong. But even then, what do you mean by half? Half of your music collection, or of all compilation albums, or of all albums with album artists? I guess you are talking about half of the latter, which is probably less than 1% of your library.
>u say "and the vast majority of albums that have different artists on >each track are various artist/compilation albums." the first problem >is SC says its a comp even if its only ONE track, (as opposed to >"every" track as you put it). > What about an album with only two songs, with different artists for each? >the second problem is that for some albums, like sinatra duets, it IS >every track, but its definitely NOT a comp. > This is one case where the right thing to do is to add an album artist. There is no alternative if you want the duet artists to also be tagged on the tracks. >my main point is that from a design perspective, this was bound to have >problems with some people. now, people may not see it as a big deal, >(and i'm not saying its a big deal), but what they can't do is deny >that its far from being 100% reliable and they certainly can't assert >its necessary. > It is 100% reliable - it does everything it intends to do, based on the content of the tags. >but regardless of how my tags got that way, its not that unusual for >someone to have their tags that way, whether they did it manually or >not. people put artists and guest artists in TPE1, and then use TPE2 >for the main album artist. pretty common. > Then with the option to consider TPE2 as album artist, the album won't be considered a compilation, so there won't be a problem? >what i don't want to have to do though, is FIND and UNDO what >classifications SC does. if i am going to add comp tags to those >albums i want to add it to, i want to only have to add the tags as a >positive ID and have that be a pro-active decision on my part. > It is easier to find compilation albums that should not be, rather than albums that should be compilations. >however, none of those albums with something in TPE2 got classified as a >comp... That's correct - an album with an album artist should not be a compilation. >...raising the question of why would you need VA auto-detection as >a stage at scan time then? > For albums that have songs with different performing artists without a compilation tag and without a various artist tag. SC would have to decide to do something to determine what artist to display the album under. What should it do? Guess one of the artists as being the album artist? Guess the album is a compilation? SC decides using simple clear-cut logic because there is no tag to tell it otherwise, that it should be a compilation. Albums that are displayed in SC as compilations that you don't want to be compilations should have an ALBUMARTIST defined instead. There should never be a need for COMPILATION=0 tags. I don't think that COMPILATION=1 should ever be required in tags either. >and when i go to "artists->various artists" it only shows TWO! albums >as VA albums, even though i have a bunch that really are VA albums and >that have "Various Artists" in the TPE2 field. > >so that confuses me big time. as per Andys post, shouldn't at least >the ones that are actually VA albums and that say "Various Artists" in >TPE2 be identified as comps to SC? > No, Andy said "where ARTIST=Various Artists". That sounds crazy to me, but I guess someone asked for it to do that. i.e. someone deosn't want to put in different performing artists for each song, so puts the name of every artist on a compilation to be "Various Artists" so that it appears as an album by "Various Artists" and appears as a compilation. I guess that if your TPE2 is being read as an Album Artist contributor role, that your compilation albums have an album artist string of "Various Artists", and would be found by Browsing to Artists > Various Artists (listed under the alphabar page link for "V" only - not the special "Various Artists" group at the top of the Browse Artists list. >why isn't it any longer identifying the TPE1 mismatches as comps? Because you have an album artist tag set. Your wishes have come true - that's what you wanted it to do by getting TPE2 to be interpreted as album artist. If you have TPE2 tags present on albums with differing track artists, they won't be detected as compilations, and will instead be listed under the album artist. >the VA in TPE2 as comps? why is VA logic defeated just b/c it has data >that populates SC's ALBUMARTIST field? (the two albums that DID get >identified did NOT have anything in their TPE2 fields, but did have >TPE1 mismatches). > Sounds like it is working fine. >is "TCMP=1" a valid tag? > No. It's non-standard. This is what iTunes writes when "Part of a compilation" is ticked in iTunes. I said in my last mail "ITUNESCOMPILATION" - that was misleading. This is what it is called within my tagger "Mp3Tag", but it physically reads/stores it as an id3 frame called TCMP. >in the post before yours, Andy says that if it finds the string >"Various Artists" in album artist, then its ID'd as a comp. > No, he actually said "artist" not album artist. Phil _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
