I think that, given the licenses for our materials and the fact that our 
instructors are volunteers (so free to choose where they teach), Monsanto 
should be treated the same as the rest.

I think that setting different procedures for running workshops would be a 
complication for us. I don't mind teaching for free, given that I'm allowed to 
use the same materials to teach for money, so I see no much benefit in having 
bids for instructors and get paid occasionally.

The other point of restricting workshops for evil organizations is more 
interesting, but I think that it'd be very difficult to decide what's good and 
what's bad. We have a code of conduct during the workshop and I don't think it 
should be any more than that.

In my opinion, the identification of graduate students with poor, innocent 
people in need of help is pretty naive: these are the people who will work at 
Monsanto in a couple of years (and not by chance, but because they tried really 
hard), so I see no reason in teaching them now and not later.

In any case, I think a formal writeup of the thoughts in this thread is needed, 
mostly to avoid misunderstandings in the future.

Ivan

El 05/03/2015, a las 01:07, Juan Nunez-Iglesias <[email protected]> escribió:

> Hi all,
> 
> I agree that this thread has been very interesting to read! My quick thoughts:
> 
> - I favour the "for-profits pay/not-for-profits don't pay", single-price camp.
> - I *strongly* support the creation of an ethics board to deal with these 
> issues. Although I agree with the "instructors' conscience" clause mooted by 
> Greg, there should certainly be limits. If the behaviour of certain members 
> of an organisation is sufficiently unethical, just associating with that 
> organisation becomes problematic, even if one did not participate in said 
> behaviour.
> - Having said that, Monsanto gets way too bad a rap and teaching there does 
> not meet the "excessively egregious" criterion. See e.g. 
> http://www.quora.com/Is-Monsanto-evil/answer/Franklin-Veaux
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Juan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Raniere Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
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