Hi Peter!

(I sent this directly to you, now replying to list...)

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Peter Hoyt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I recently was helping in a SWC workshop, with a (beginner) learner who
> got lost.
> Instead of taking over the learners keyboard, I talked her through the
> process.
>

Not sure if you saw a thread Belinda started on this topic in November. The
subject line was "On not touching people's devices", there are some
thoughts, suggestions, and resources in it:
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-November/thread.
html#5609


Even though I tried to be quiet, this turned out to be VERY distracting to
> nearby learners (and they let me know it), and it's understandable. Has
> anyone come up with a strategy to deal with this? For example if you could
> grab the laptop and move to an empty spot in the back of the room where
> learners can be talked to, without disturbing others? This seems
> distracting also, and would only make the learner fall farther behind.
>

This scenarios resonates with me: I'm loud, my voice carries, and I end up
having less control over my volume the more caffeinated, excited, or sleep
deprived I am, so I've definitely run into this before (which unfortunately
also means it has likely happened even more when those around were to
polite to tell me to pipe down).

It's tough and very situation dependent - if it doesn't block them from
continuing to participate, you can suggested putting the issue aside for
now and offer to help during the next break. Another way is to get on a
synchronous communication channel - (be it IRC, slack, or etherpad), and
try to solve it that way. The advantage of doing that in the channel used
by the workshop is that other helpers/instructors/learners might face the
same issue and will benefit form the instruction, or have a clue about how
to proceed. It also allows the person to context switch a little bit
gentler, and perhaps copy-paste commands as opposed to having to type them
out from your phonetic incantations like "arr em space minus eff arr space
dot slash data enter". I've also written out commands on a piece of paper
and handed it over. Now having said that, as you point out there is a
tension between wanting to provide full context (what's happening, why, and
enumerating the different paths towards resolution) and getting to a
resolution.

But sometimes, you're just going to get an impossible situation - I recall
a hardware failure - computer freezing and refusing to boot mid-workshop
one time. The owner said that it was known to be a flaky laptop, and we
tried switching bios settings and had a bootable USB drive with Debian on
it that we tried to conjure new life into that machine, which partially
worked but in the end there was little we could do about it - the machine
kept freezing, we had to admit defeat and change our expectations and our
strategy for the remainder of the day.

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