I don't believe a scripting language has been implemented for Voice Over; however, I would hope that Apple has considered this. It's all fine and well to ask software developers to adhere to the Voice Over Guidelines that Apple has formulated, but what if we want to use versions of software that are not initially compatible with VO? That is the one thing that Jaws and Window Eyes have over Voice Over. Granted, Voice Over is still in its early stages, but something along these lines is going to need to happen in order for more blind people to want to make the switch to the Mac.

-Joshua


----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY WANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
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Curious about something else. Are there folks out there who write scripts for programs using VO as some do with Jaws.

By the way, related to question 4 of my last post, the two external drives are firewire so it should work from that perspective. My concern is that while one is actually Mac based and I use MacDrive to access it, another is windows based but I'm assuming I can still plug this right in and it will read the FAT 32 or NTFS format, can't remember which it is.


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Larry Wanger
----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Hess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:02 PM
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Larry, Here are some of the answers to your questions.
1. I experienced some difficulty working in the Internet Browser, Safari. As you know, when you load a page you are then able to move around with the right and left arrows in combination with the control and option keys. When I moved to the html content and hit the command to interact with the HTML, I found I then had to move line by line with the arrow keys. Is there a command that works to tell the Voice Over to just read the entire page without having to enter commands. When reading a lot of text, having to hit a key for each line gets old and tough on the fingers. Command-Option-a (I will referto these as voKeys) is supposed to read the page however I find that it seems to stop every now and then. You can try pressing vokeys-semicolan to lock the vokeys and that will at least free up a hand from holding them down.
You might also try vokeys-shift-w to read the entire window.
2. Related to question #1, is there a command that will either allow you to skip past all links and go to the text on a web page or, is there a command to be able to skip a lot of links at once. For example, in Windows with Jaws I can be on a web page and just hit page down to get past links or to move through a page faster. Often I look at specific pages several times a day and know that if I hit page down twice I get to the text. This is kind of important to me as hitting arrow keys to move link by link really stinks. Larry, I love this command too and have [EMAIL PROTECTED] requesting this. At the present time the best choice is using the item chooser list which can be activated by pressing vo-i and typing the first few letters of what you are looking for. I have also found that going to last item by pressing vokeys-pagedown gets you closer to the meet of the page.

3. I'm going to check out the Apple site but can someone briefly contrast what is different between an iMac and a Mac Mini other than the obvious things like needing a keyboard and monitor if you use a mini? How big is the normal hard disk in a Mac Mini, things like that? I'll leave that to the pros on this list. They will share some of the differences.

4. I have backed up data on two external hard disks. These files consist of word documents, photographs belonging to my wife, music, stuff like that. I'm assuming that the drives which are PC compatible will just connect to the Mac and be readable? Good question. I am going to suggest the possibility that if they are being connected via usb port they should be recognized by the Mac. Again, there are folks doing this who hopefully can give you a more detailed answer.

I'm all but ready to order up a Mac but had these few last questions!
Well Larry, I am glad that you have given it a serious look and also glad that you are making an informed decision. Keep those questions coming. WE all want you to be happy with your Mac and know what you can and can't expect write out of the box. Have a great day.
Sincerely:

JohnyTheHess & WillieTheWoof






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