Josh and all,
I may be incorrect here, but it is my understanding that fortunately
or unfortunately, it is all up to the apps. Unlike windows, VO is
built in to the os so if an app is properly written for the os, VO
will work with it. Some apps can work with vo and there are things
you can do with not to vo to work with some apps as work arounds and
it might be possible to set assigns to them, but the one thing you
cannot do with the Mac/osx is re-write the app which in most
instances, is what you'd have to do.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Dec 8, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Joshua E. Loya wrote:
I don't believe a scripting language has been implemented for
Voice Over; however, I would hope that Apple has considered this.
It's all fine and well to ask software developers to adhere to the
Voice Over Guidelines that Apple has formulated, but what if we want
to use versions of software that are not initially compatible with
VO? That is the one thing that Jaws and Window Eyes have over Voice
Over. Granted, Voice Over is still in its early stages, but something
along these lines is going to need to happen in order for more blind
people to want to make the switch to the Mac.
-Joshua
----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY WANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Curious about something else. Are there folks out there who write
scripts for programs using VO as some do with Jaws.
By the way, related to question 4 of my last post, the two external
drives are firewire so it should work from that perspective. My
concern is that while one is actually Mac based and I use MacDrive
to access it, another is windows based but I'm assuming I can still
plug this right in and it will read the FAT 32 or NTFS format,
can't remember which it is.
Check out my blog at http://lsw999.blogspot.com/
Larry Wanger
----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Hess"
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: some further questions
Larry, Here are some of the answers to your questions.
1. I experienced some difficulty working in the Internet Browser,
Safari. As you know, when you load a page you are then able to
move around with the right and left arrows in combination with the
control and option keys. When I moved to the html content and hit
the command to interact with the HTML, I found I then had to move
line by line with the arrow keys. Is there a command that works
to tell the Voice Over to just read the entire page without having
to enter commands. When reading a lot of text, having to hit a
key for each line gets old and tough on the fingers.
Command-Option-a (I will referto these as voKeys) is supposed to
read the page however I find that it seems to stop every now and
then. You can try pressing vokeys-semicolan to lock the vokeys
and that will at least free up a hand from holding them down.
You might also try vokeys-shift-w to read the entire window.
2. Related to question #1, is there a command that will either
allow you to skip past all links and go to the text on a web page
or, is there a command to be able to skip a lot of links at once.
For example, in Windows with Jaws I can be on a web page and just
hit page down to get past links or to move through a page faster.
Often I look at specific pages several times a day and know that
if I hit page down twice I get to the text. This is kind of
important to me as hitting arrow keys to move link by link really
stinks.
Larry, I love this command too and have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] requesting this. At the present
time the best choice is using the item chooser list which can be
activated by pressing vo-i and typing the first few letters of
what you are looking for. I have also found that going to last
item by pressing vokeys-pagedown gets you closer to the meet of
the page.
3. I'm going to check out the Apple site but can someone briefly
contrast what is different between an iMac and a Mac Mini other
than the obvious things like needing a keyboard and monitor if you
use a mini? How big is the normal hard disk in a Mac Mini, things
like that?
I'll leave that to the pros on this list. They will share some of
the differences.
4. I have backed up data on two external hard disks. These files
consist of word documents, photographs belonging to my wife,
music, stuff like that. I'm assuming that the drives which are PC
compatible will just connect to the Mac and be readable?
Good question. I am going to suggest the possibility that if they
are being connected via usb port they should be recognized by the
Mac. Again, there are folks doing this who hopefully can give you
a more detailed answer.
I'm all but ready to order up a Mac but had these few last questions!
Well Larry, I am glad that you have given it a serious look and
also glad that you are making an informed decision. Keep those
questions coming. WE all want you to be happy with your Mac and
know what you can and can't expect write out of the box. Have a
great day.
Sincerely:
JohnyTheHess & WillieTheWoof
