Just one thing here. You have suttly changed the original content of what you said. In your original post, you said:

Don't forget, vo isn't just the application, it's also the speech server, the universal access utility, the various voices, and so on.

In this post, you said:

voiceover isn't just the vo utility used to set yoour configuration items. It's the speech server, the *apple* voices, and even changes in the os and/or

And so on. Now, much of what you said I agree with completely. Particularly your points regarding squashing bugs, and your comments on JFW. I for one don't, and won't ever use that application on my Windows boxes. But that's not really important. As far as I am aware, and I will happily stand corrected if my information is incorrect, the Apple voices haven't been changed in many years. I am not, of course, in a position to know whether internal modules relating to VO have been changed. And the only differences I see between what I had until yesterday and what I have now are negative ones I am afraid. However like others I see no documentation anywhere indicating that VO has changed at the high level. One would have expected that if it had.
At 15:31 13/01/2006 -0500, Travis Siegel said:
Hmm, if you could kindly point out where I said anything about 3rd
party voices being upgraded being considered as part of voiceover, I'd sure like to see it. What I said was that




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