Nope you're not the only one. Mine was doing that before upgrade though. But so did Outspoken for Windows. back when I was using that. Would go back to the previous window or aplication verbally, although you might not actually be there. I think Outspoken did that because of the multipal cursor system it was using, but not sure about Vo and why it does it.

But mine has always anounced the previous window when bring up another. Such as, if I now go start Fire, it will briefly anounce "mail, inbox messages." Even though Fire is booting up probably because perhaps briefly there is a blank window or screen as it boots up. Even though I know Fire has started and is doing it's conecting and so forth. Just can't explain it fully.
On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Addressing your comment about not being in the app you were in, and having to tab back to it, I've discovered that vo will sometimes read the title of a window (say safari) when I've closed the last window in another app (say text edit) I don't know why it does this, and for the longest time, I thought it had switched to safari from text edit (or to finder from safari) However, what I've since learned is that neither vo nor the mac has switched apps, only that vo says it has. I can replicate this behavior every time now. Go into finder, and launch safari. Open a couple windows, (command- l to go to different sites) Then command-w to close the windows you've created. After the last browser window closes, vo will happily state finder, and read your sidebar, or column mode, or whatever you've got open. However, another command-l opens your open url box just as you would expect it to. So, what is happening, is that the app isn't changing, only vo is getting confused, and reading the app behind the one you're actually in. I'm guessing this is a result of the front most window going blank (as safari does when all windows are closed, or mail if you command- w from the message selection window) It's not really a problem once you know what's happening, but it did throw me off for a while, and cause me to try switching back to apps I was still in. Has anyone else experienced this, and Scott, is this what you're experiencing? If it is, and others can verify this, let me know, and I'll post a bug report for apple, if it's just me, then I'll dig more to see if I can fix it, it could be my version of 10.4.4, since I'm still using ver 8G31, and not the official release, it's possible it got fixed before the final release if nobody else is having this problem. However, it sounds like what Scott is having trouble with, so thought I'd mention it.
On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Folks, I'd like someone to try a navigation experiment for me.

If you go to Finder and put it in the icon view, can you navigate with the regular arrow keys. If so now switch to column mode and see if you can do the same or if you wish try the reverse. Please let me know if you experience a loss of movement feedback. I've noticed this problem and hasn't really tried prior to upgrading to 10.4.4 and actually I like column view in some ways. You can use the arrow keys to expand and clapse folders etc. no problem and in icon view it doesn't seem to work as well. This is a little separate from my requested experiment. Btw, while I'm on the navigation issue. It seems to me that after upgrading to 10.4.4 there are some issues, not major show stoppers, but annoying things. Sometimes when closing a window, I find myself no longer in lets say Finder, I'll all the sudden be in Mail and I'll have to command tab back to Finder. I've also noticed in a few instances where I'll go to create a new message in Mail, I'll actually be somewhere other than the to field and previously I was always there.
Just curious if anyone else has experienced any of these issues.

tnx

Scott










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