I changed the subject line; there's no use people who want to talk only about the progress on a braille terminal having to wade through such messages.

From the message Gabe posted, I would conjecture that Dave and others may have given up on hearing from apple, since he talks about creating a native screen driver. My own feeling is that apple maybe does not want to give out this information; since from what I've heard Apple did not want a third party doing speech accessibility. As for this missing information being the whole ball game", I don't think that would be something that could be ascertained without talking directly to brltty devellopers and finding out that there's information that could be shared to solve this problem.

As for a braille program just taking its text from vo, my problem with this is that the braille would then have exactly the capabilities and shortcomings of vo; anything that vo couldn't figure out, braille would also be unable to access. This might make little difference or a lot of difference, but I'd frankly rather, if possible, have a system that can read the screen for itself than one that has to depend on vo for everything. the point that you can quickly put together something just using vo's caption pannel may or may not be correct, but how would you know without making some effort to work with brltty developers. A deaf-blind person might be glad to have any braille program, but why should we settle for a lesser option if there's a possibility of porting an already-established excellent program? Either there are facts of which I am unaware which are not being shared or a lot of assumptions are being made. I will also mention that brltty has the ability to read bootup messages, etc. instead of just starting up at login, which can be very helpful to a machine's administrator, though of course I do not know whether this will be possible in macox. But it's one more reason to explore the possibility of porting it.

I certainly can't force anybody to work on brlltty, nor was that my intention; I simply wanted to make people aware of the possibility and find out why it was being ignored. I really have nothing more to say on this subject that would be helpful; anybody interested should contact Dave or the brltty list, as I have said before.

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Cheryl
"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also".



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