Office for the mac is *not* compatible with voice over which is the
main point of this list. Voice over users need software that works
with voice over. Office does not. I think I'm going to scream if I
see that suggestion here one more time. I apologize in advance, but
here we go.
When you joined this list, you were informed it was a list for
visually impaired users using voice over. If you aren't a voice over
user, then you should at least attempt to learn what voice over is,
what it can do, and how it's used before telling those of us on this
list to use programs that have already been discussed thoroughly in
the past (check the archives for office posts) and already been
determined *not* to work with voice over. If this were a general mac
discussion list, I could understand this, but it isn't, it's for
voice over users, and if you're not a voice over user you should
check facts before posting that this or that works. How many hours
of productivity has been lost from posts that claimed that this or
that worked (meaning on the mac) but since it's a voice over list, we
wrongly assumed it meant worked with voice over. Grabbed the
program, found it completely lacking, then had to say so on the
list. I don't know why this continues to happen, but I for one no
longer take anything for face value anymore. When someone claims on
this list something works, I will *not* go get the program until I
either have several hours to devote to fiddling with it, or until
someone else on the list I trust says it works. I've lost too many
hours messing around with stuff that just plain doesn't work on the
recomendation of someone on this list who doesn't use voice over.
Rant off, and that's all I'm saying on this topic. I don't wish to
stir up trouble, there's enough of that on here already, and honestly
I think it needs to stop, but I'm not the list owner, and can't say
so with any kind of authority, so I won't say so other than in this
post.
And with that said, I'm done here, gotta go make the spaghetti.
On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Pete Horrocks wrote:
Hi Ryan,
Don't mean to intrude here, but you could have used Microsoft
Office for Mac, it contains Excel, PowerPoint, Word, and a few
other programs.
I love my Mac, but i will admit, some programs and utilities are
easier to find in the windows world, but even so, i'm hanging with
my Mac.
Pete
On Apr 16, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
Blindtech, you seem to think that the Mac is the perfect computer
that can replace PC's for everything, so let me ask you a
question. What accessible spreadsheet is there for the Mac? I'm
taking an advanced statistics class and I had to use Excel for a
few assignments. Therefore, I had to use my Windows laptop for
that. That is, unless I'm off base and there is an accessible
alternative for the Mac. If so, please enlighten me. If not, I
rest my case. You really shouldn't get defensive every time
somebody doesn't want to use your computer of choice.
Original message:
I am in a totally different field then you are kevin. and by the
way,
I can't believe you would take an on air personality as something to
take serious.
My business registered in the state of arizona, The BlindTechs
Network is a business which teaches blind persons how to use their
computers, I do support and training, and system installs. This is
why I take this so serious.
BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net
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On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Kevin Reves wrote:
Sorry. I'm not buying it. Gabe. You have called in to many internet
radio stations and you come across exactly the same way as you did
in your emails. So unfortunately, that doesn't fly. I make my
living off macs too, as a singer/songwriter/producer, and I too am
waiting around for the accessibility to get better with Vo. Riddle
me this. Why can't we use Garage band, Pro Tools, Logic, Q Bass,
etc? Why the hell am I stuck in O S 9 with P T 5.2.1, while my
sighted counterparts are at 7? Is that accessibility? I should say
not. So yes. In a sense, those of us who make a living using our
macs are indeed waiting around for Vo accessibility to improve.
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