I suppose I should have explained that there are plenty of commands you can run without installing anything further; because I have run linux and wanted to install more I skipped that basic fact. Having already been familiar with linux I had some ideas what I could run with the terminal so I haven't specifically done reading on the Mac's Unix system. Maybe somebody onlist can point you to some documentation. a lot of people don't know anything about the underlying Unix system when they start with the Mac; in fact, I think quite a few never do anything with it; glad you've discovered it. The way voiceover works with terminal isn't optimal but now that I'm used to it, it isn't usually a hindrance.

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Cheryl
"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also".



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