When I think back about gabe and his posts, I really don't remember anything positive. I remember once we were having a discussion about itunes, and he flew off the handle saying that blind people shouldn't care about itunes and they should jus use the pirate music sites instead to get their music. This is the clearest memory I have of gabe, that and lots of fighting and people leaving. If this had all just happened once I could see giving him another chance, but twice, it doesn't seem likely things will change, especially since I've witness this behavior on other lists as well.
Holly
On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

I agree with this, absolutely. I have no ax to grind here, I just speak as I find. His input and his previous behavior was, to me at least, arrogant and often vindictive. And as you rightly point out, this happened not just once but many times.

On 10 Apr 2007, at 20:43, Darcy Burnard wrote:

Hi all. I want to preface my comments by saying that I've never had any personal dealings with Gabe. What I'm about to say is strictly based on my observations of him on this list and other lists. That being said, I think that Gabe returning to Mac Visionaries would be a disaster. To my mind, the really important point of the whole situation is that he has been removed from the list not once but twice. Once you can kind of forgive, because we've all made mistakes. But twice? It's also worth noting that while Gabe was on the list, he was taken to task for his conduct on several occasions. Each time he appologized, but almost immediately he proceeded to do the same things again. As for his knowledge of the Mac, e never struck me as possessing anymore than many of the other people here, and those people at least display a level of politeness. Finally, I want to say that while Gabe was here in the past, his behavior caused many good people to leave the list. Many of them have subsequently returned, but some of them have not. I'd hate to see that happen again. In my opinion, what knowledge he may or may not have, just isn't worth it.
Darcy



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