Hi Greg,
I tend to agree with you. Windows is one of the few OS that doesn't
ahve a workable screen reader included. More likely, I think, is
that Microsoft will license a third-party screen reader, or even buy
out the company, and include it as part of the OS. We'll see.
On Apr 13, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
The problem that Microsoft now faces is related to its near
monopoly status. But I doubt that if they were to provide a screen
reader they would be in any kind of serious trouble. I fully expect
that with in a few year a screen reader will be just a part of any
OS and the third party screen readers will just go away.
THe biggest technical problem with third party screen readers is
they break with each now release of the OS.
Greg
On Apr 13, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Ari wrote:
If I can do most things with VO, I think I'd rather take the
chance. Especially because JFW and all other screenreaders are so
expensive, it's probably worthwhile trying to learn VO, also
considering the thing which I find the most brilliant: that I can
go to any sighted person's Mac, and, because I've learned VO, I
can use it just like that. It is also a good thing to learn the
other operating system's screenreader, since then you can use it
whenever you need to anyway. I also heard the Narrator story, and,
I don't know if this is true, but I heard that the screenreader
manufacturers could sue microsoft if they developed a screenreader
that was good, you guys know like when makers of things like web
browsers sued microsoft because of the incorporated browser and
stuff, I suppose that's what screenreader manufacturers would do?
But John, you do have the point, I need to be as productive as I
am with the windows system, in that my documents and assignments
need to look good, and I can be able to do most things.
Ari
Ari
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Campbell"
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Subject: Re: Hi
John Heim wrote:
Wow... I totally disagree that voiceover is easy to llearn when
compared to jaws.
I was in a similar position, and wrote this:
http://www.nomensa.com/resources/articles/accessibility-articles/
screen-reading-with-apples.html
(Which although some things are easier than I previously thought, it
is still fair to say that application support is still somewhat
lacking, depending on what you do with it.)
I kept going, and created this help guide:
http://alastairc.ac/notes/osx/voiceover/voiceover-basics/
I suspect that (like me) a lot of the issues were more to do with
differences in OSX and how they impact keyboard controls rather than
the screen reader itself. It's a fine line, but an important one.
Voiceover has a lot of potential, I'm definitely looking forward to
the next version
(http://alastairc.ac/2006/08/the-potential-of-voiceover/).
Oh, and I made a backup of the Voiceover wiki before it disappeared,
is it worth putting back up?
Kind regards,
-Alastair
