James Jolley wrote:

Take the www.teamxbox.com example I gave. click any of the reviews and once the page opens, try and read it for a while. I don't know what the problem at my end is, but the page keeps exiting the HTML content and you always entd up back at the top after reading for a while.

When raising issues, it's crucial to give the URL of a specific page which isn't working for you, rather than the site as a whole, since different pages can have very different underlying markup and code, even if they seem superficially similar. I tried going to the following review (this is in Safari 2):

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1373/Stuntman-Ignition/p1/

and waited for the ping to indicate the page had finished loading. I was able to navigate right through the entire page, including the review, in a loop with ctrl option down. I was also able to pick the review heading from the Item Chooser (ctrl option I), then ctrl option down through the review itself.

Because I need Safari 2 for webpage testing at work and they can't be safely run on the same machine, I'm afraid I can't test the same page in Safari 3.

If you can provide reproducible steps at a particular URL in Safari 3, you should report the problem. But it's crucial to be as specific as possible if you want the developers to be able to isolate and fix the problem (assuming it turns out to be a bug in VoiceOver or Safari, rather than the webpage itself). See:

http://bugs.webkit.org/page.cgi?id=bug-writing.html

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Bug_writing_guidelines

http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2007/08/15

for important guidance on explaining problems in a way that developers can understand and act upon.

And here's a discussion about the proper place to file bug reports for Safari 3:

http://webkit.org/blog/107/safari-beta-301-for-windows/

I'd tend to file web-related bugs with the WebKit engine project, since there's a lot more transparency and bugs that crossover with VoiceOver or Safari bugs specifically tend to be assigned a RADAR number anyhow.

For an example, I've just logged a bug about the Item Chooser menu not including headings with WebKit Nightly:

http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15132

Note that I explain how to reproduce my VoiceOver configuration.

This bug (if it is such) could also be affecting you with the WebKit version used by Safari 3, but I don't know.

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Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

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